Today's postings

  1. [Baren 26077] Welcome Bobby Rosenstock (Bette Norcross Wappner)
  2. [Baren 26078] Re: Art Copyright (ArtfulCarol #
  3. [Baren 26079] Copyrights (Jeanne Norman Chase)
  4. [Baren 26080] Re: Joint Exchange? (b.patera #
  5. [Baren 26081] Re: Joint Exchange? ("Bea Gold")
  6. [Baren 26082] Re: Gallery 451 Printmakers (ReadDevine #
  7. [Baren 26083] RE: Baren Digest (old) V28 #2794 ("marilynn smih")
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Message 1
From: Bette Norcross Wappner
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:11:45 -0400
Subject: [Baren 26077] Welcome Bobby Rosenstock
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> Hello Everyone,
> I am new to the BarenForum, and just wanted to introduce myself. I
> recently moved out to Portland, Oregon after graduating from school in
> Alfred New York and am trying to find a job and meet some other
> artists. Barbara Mason reffered me to Baren Forum, and I am hoping to
> participate in the upcoming printexchange. Thanks, and beautiful print
> Shireen.
> Bobby Rosenstock
> Portland, OR

Welcome to Baren, Bobby. Its a nice group of people. Barbara Mason is
a great person to be hooked up to. Best wishes for your first Baren

Bette Wappner
northern Kentucky
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Message 2
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:23:42 EDT
Subject: [Baren 26078] Re: Art Copyright
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From Carol Lyons:
Experience is the best teacher in this.
Maria of Mexico and Barbara P. had good info.
But a lot of misunderstanding is out there.

Copyright is Federal.
I was awarded $10,000 and a public apology to appear in the newspapers.
I had found it necessary to seek legal advice and eventually to go to
Federal court when my little Village of Irvington, NY appropriated my artwork,
sent it out to all residents and businesses as their New Year's card without my
knowledge, removing my signature and copyright symbol. (And by the way putting
that sign may just mean intent to copyright. As someone said copyright is
automatic in the US.).

I asked for no money, only an apology and a correction from the Village.
All I got was a run-around.
Did this cost me $$$ legal fee.? NO. Only the $50 for the first letter to
Village of Irvington, which a lawyer wrote and was not answered. And a standard
% of the award to the lawyer.

Whether I had ever sold a piece of art for $10,000 was not an issue. Whether
I had registered the art was not an issue either.

The Editor of Artist's magazine, Mike Ward, wrote about this in his Letter to
the Editor, Artist's Magazine,
November '94. It was for people like us and artists across the country.
Once I sent that letter to Baren for the files.

(While this was going on in the early 90's and entirely by coincidence I went
into a Geary St. gallery in San Francisco, a dealer of Vargas art. The
gallery owner told me all about Vargas and his copyright case.The information
helped a lot. I went home and did a bit of research. Two days ago, now more than
10 years later, I was back in San Francisco and told the update of my case!!)

It is important for us and interesting to read a book about the business of
art. The phone number for the US Copyright Office was (202-707-3000), forms
free of charge, filing fee was $10.

Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY
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Message 3
From: Jeanne Norman Chase
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 26079] Copyrights
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I want to thank ; Maria, Myron, Thomas, Barbara, Mary Brooks Mueller and Carol Lyons and any others that I have forgotten to mention, for sending me so much information on how to protect my work from all those questionable people who seem to delight in stealing other peoples talent.
My head is still buzzing with all the information, have printed it all out and will act upon some of it.
It seems like any type of creativity is victimized in this society.

Jeanne N.
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Message 4
From: b.patera #
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:26:29 +0000
Subject: [Baren 26080] Re: Joint Exchange?
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Hi Georgia,

Consider yourself in!

Barbara P.
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Message 5
From: "Bea Gold"
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:22:28 -0700
Subject: [Baren 26081] Re: Joint Exchange?
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I would like to join as well - I was very sorry to have missed the self portraits - did you see the Baren one? I loved doing it. Barbara I have wanted to tell you that your work is top on my list of favorite printers. Thanks for sharing yourself. Bea Gold
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Message 6
From: ReadDevine #
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:18:06 -0400
Subject: [Baren 26082] Re: Gallery 451 Printmakers
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Love the invitation Lawrence, great concept. Let the humble uneductated denizens of New South Wales tremble indeed!

Mellissa Read-Devine
Sydney, Australia
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Message 7
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:50:17 -0700
Subject: [Baren 26083] RE: Baren Digest (old) V28 #2794
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Not a vote, because I doubt I will do this next exchange, traveling to Baja,
life is amazing! But after another generation being born in my family I had
a thought on a theme, " Generations" meaning past and present. Our
heritage included. Marilynn