Today's postings

  1. [Baren 26378] cases for exchange 21,22,and 23 (Barbara Mason)
  2. [Baren 26379] RE: deck of cards ("Maria Diener (aka Arango)")
  3. [Baren 26380] ink and the card exchange (Barbara Mason)
  4. [Baren 26381] Re: ink and the card exchange (Bette Norcross Wappner)
  5. [Baren 26382] Deck of Cards - Verify addresses (Bette Norcross Wappner)
  6. [Baren 26383] Pets exchange ("Matt Laine")
  7. [Baren 26384] Green/golden man and the BBC ("Harry French")
  8. [Baren 26385] woodblock intaglio ("Love Me")
  9. [Baren 26386] Re: cases for exchange 21,22,and 23 (Julio.Rodriguez #
  10. [Baren 26387] Re: cases for exchange 21,22,and 23 (Barbara Mason)
  11. [Baren 26388] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V29 #2845 (Nov 8, 2004) ("Aimee Youmans")
  12. [Baren 26389] Re: woodblock intaglio (Barbara Mason)
  13. [Baren 26390] Floripa - Santa Catarina - Brazil ("MPereira")
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Message 1
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:32:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 26378] cases for exchange 21,22,and 23
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OK, Guys, I am getting ready to order these this week.

If your name is not on the list let me know, today! And if you need one for #20 also get in touch with me.

I also want to order for #23 and so far have only two...if you want one order immediately so I can get it going as our vendor will be tied up in January and February with a big project.

I will get a couple extra for the mall, but it will only be two or three so do not think you can get them there except occasionally, and the mall cases will have no apecific baren label, but we might do a general one you can apply if you want. We still want to ship them with the exchange prints to cut down on postage for all.

Between #21 and #22 I will be ordering for the following people
Sharri LaPierreMaria ArangoFrank TruebaDiane CutterBette Wappner
Frank TruebaDiane Cutter Tom KristensenClaudia Coonen
burt Bucher

Best to everyone, Barbara
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Message 2
From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)"
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:17:32 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26379] RE: deck of cards
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I will add my voice to thank Colleen and Bette for their respective
delightful loving touches on the presentation of the Deck of Cards Exchange
and the Surimono Exchange.
Your work and dedication and skill! Wow, I am still admiring all the
thoughtful details.

Sure raises the bar for future coordinators!

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Message 3
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:58:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 26380] ink and the card exchange
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Well, I have a sad little report on the Akua2 intaglio ink....

I used this ink on the card exchange with a solar plate and was appalled to see how gray the ink on my cards looked in comparison with the other cards.....Akua Kolor has since improved it but think I will stick to either sumi ink or oil based ink for my black for the forseeable future.....I was stressed...or as stressed as I ever get over stuff I can't fix....

At any rate, I still love this ink for teaching and love the colors which I use a lot over oil based ink. But the black does not compare...sad but true. Rats, I hate bad news.
Best to all,
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Message 4
From: Bette Norcross Wappner
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:34:23 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26381] Re: ink and the card exchange
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Your cards were great! Besides, who would ever know that they were
suppose to be black black? Not knowing your disappointment in the ink,
I thought they were very nice :) But glad you found out this important
information for the future.
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Message 5
From: Bette Norcross Wappner
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26382] Deck of Cards - Verify addresses
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At this time, I only need to verify the addresses for:

Raylene Johnston - Australia
Robert Swain Charles - New York
Richard Campbell - New York
Robyn Sassen - South Africa

Collen and I appreciate the patience everyone has shown and all your
very nice compliments :)
Yes, it took a long time to get everyone's cards in and shipped out and
alot was learned. I have enjoyed working with Colleen. She is a very
talented and creative artist and printmaker.

Bette Wappner
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Message 6
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:14:36 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26383] Pets exchange
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I believe I signed up for a print exchange with the subject being Pets -- Real or Imagined -- but have lost all the details. Would the person coordinating this exchange please send me the info? Please send to


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Message 7
From: "Harry French"
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:55:25 -0000
Subject: [Baren 26384] Green/golden man and the BBC
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The green/golden man was printed with Lawrence's oil based inks, but although fine they did not shine as the medieval documents do in our cathedral libraries. I bought some fairly cheap Gedeo gilding paste and brushed it over the "gold" and "silver" wood blocks; burnished it onto the prints and then laid a gold/silver leaf on top of the gilding paste. After drying I rubbed off all the none gilded areas and was left with the original woodblock areas 'reprinted'. It worked, but before you burn my print to get at the gold can't be real because it was fairly inexpensive!
The BBC showed Hokusai's "Wave"on mainstream UKTV earlier this year. Their arts programmes are brilliant. They should be because, apart from the elderly, every person in UK who owns a TV set must by law contribute some £110 ($204) per year for programming and administration.
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Message 8
From: "Love Me"
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:26:46 +1100
Subject: [Baren 26385] woodblock intaglio
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Thanks Barbara for steering us to the beautiful work of Michael Schneider. I know there are many links to artists on the Baren website, but I tend to look only as they come up in daily discussion. I am almost always impressed, and should probably say so more often.

As I persist with my birchwood blocks I am bemused to see the linework break up before my eyes, little chips inevitably come loose. I know I should try cherry, but ... I like the ready availability of the birch and I would like to work around the shortcomings. I have been wondering about different ways of achieving linework or fine texture, perhaps using intaglio, but still sticking to wood blocks, and preferably using water based inks, and no press. Am I dreaming? Apparently not, Michael has acheived some mysterious alchemy here, I understand rocks are involved???

Tom in Australia

PS. Please, no more film reviews.
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Message 9
From: Julio.Rodriguez #
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:24:42 -0600
Subject: [Baren 26386] Re: cases for exchange 21,22,and 23
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Barbara, I need cases for #21, 22 & 23....

thanks....Julio Rodriguez
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Message 10
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 19:41:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 26387] Re: cases for exchange 21,22,and 23
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ok, I got you on the list.
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Message 11
From: "Aimee Youmans"
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:43:06 -0900
Subject: [Baren 26388] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V29 #2845 (Nov 8, 2004)
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well--first and foremost--bette--thank you so much for making the
long-awaited cards even more special upon their arrival! what a lovely
presentatation, what an eclecticallly ( how's that for a word!) wonderful
collection--my first exchange, so that's why i must rave on...
i approach this the next exchange with a little more trepidation--it's a lot
bigger! i am still so very novice, really am outa my league among you--but i
wanted to participate in this one to honor those who encouraged me along on
this trail.

i guess i'm one of those lurkers-- so here's what i'm up to: we have a
christmas opening coming up in our little co-op gallery here out in the
bush--there are all of 250+ citizens looking for christmas presents. on
nov. 3, i started a meditation: i've found solace in a "prayer flag"
project--i'm cutting wood blocks of some of the birds that live, at various
times of the year, in the neighborhood....printing on cloth---does anyone
have any experience with this--i thought i'd just try my daniel smith
waterbased inks, see whether ironing them might set them, check them out in
the rain (yes, rain--winter in southeast alaska these years)-- it is a
delight to me to think of them--ravens, eagles, hummingbirds, kingfishers,
magpies, swallows--flying overhead in tandem...

finally-- ewoud bremer--i am deeply offended by your use of this format for
your jesus message. i think there are many more important things to worry
about in the present and future. try thinking about jesus as humankind--that
was his point, wasn't it?--

thanks to you bareners all for so much, all the time... aimee
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Message 12
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:04:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 26389] Re: woodblock intaglio
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I know Maria oils her wood before she carves it. It keeps the chipping down so you might try that. Just rub some oil on it, maybe mineral oil. You don't want to use anything that might turn rancid. If it seems too slick to print water based ink when you are done carving, you can sand it lightly with real fine sandpaper and a flat block of wood, but probably you will not need to do this as the oil just sort of goes into the wood and seems to be really inside by the time you get to printing.

I originally learned to sand the blocks down to 600 grit, then varnish with a mixture of 1/2 spar varnish and 1/2 mineral spirits. Spar varnish is also called marine varnish. You can buy it here at Home Depot, but I am not sure about where you would get it. Rub it on with a cloth in a well ventilated area. Let dry over night or at least several hours. Sand again lightly with the 600 grit and carve. Then rub the varnish mixture on again before printing. This strengthens the wood. You need to keep this varnish mixture in a covered jar when not using it and be sure to let your rag dry out thoroughly in the air as this stuff will be flamable. Try both of these and see what works best for will make the wood easier to work with and of course sharp tools help a lot! Dull tools just tear the wood up.

Michael had several large pointed rocks and a leather glove that had been reinforced with padding to protect his hand. He just grabbed the rock and pounded away on the wood. I am not sure what type of wood he used, but it was not real thick so possibly it was Shina plywood. I think Michael's success with this is that he is printing pretty much all in one color and using a scrubbing brush to force the paper down into the block. I think you could print with a press and blankets or a sponge foam layer to get the same effects...but by hand you really have control of each individual little area, as you can apply more pressure in one spot if you like. I sure would have liked to watch him actually printing but even hearing how he did it was enlightening. I am such a process junkie I always find this stuff really fascinating.
Best to you,
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Message 13
From: "MPereira"
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:10:33 -0200
Subject: [Baren 26390] Floripa - Santa Catarina - Brazil
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Hi, all.

Please read The New York Times , 08.11.2004.
There is an article about Florianópolis (FLORIPA)
Santa Catarina, Brazil, where I live, written by
Victoria Gomelsky,
and "see'" why I invite you all from all over
the world to come here to visit this paradise.
Nature is beatitull here and it promises and
would inspire many wonderful

Please come!

You are all welcome.

I' ll provide shows, lectures,
workshops, TV interviews,
visit to Universities,
to "Hassis Foundation" , it's
the museum of Hassis, a great,
great visual artist from Here,
to the great lady of Catarinense
Art, Miss Eli Heil , that lives in
a private museum she named her
"Egg world"m with thousand and thousands of her
surprising works.

And much more.

Thank you.

Murilo Grisard Pereira.