Today's postings

  1. [Baren 26591] Re: Baren Digest (old) V29 #2880 ("Holtzblatt/Hobscheid")
  2. [Baren 26592] RE: Baren Digest (old) V29 #2879 ("marilynn smih")
  3. [Baren 26593] Re: printing with children (L Cass)
  4. [Baren 26594] Re: adhesives ("Ramsey Household")
  5. [Baren 26595] RE: Baren Digest (old) V29 #2880 adhesives ("nancy osadchuk")
  6. [Baren 26596] Re: printing with children (Reneeaugrin #
  7. [Baren 26597] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V29 #2880 (Dec 7, 2004) (Barebonesart #
  8. [Baren 26598] Re: Baren Digest (old) V29 #2880 (Mike Lyon)
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Message 1
From: "Holtzblatt/Hobscheid"
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 08:28:30 -0600
Subject: [Baren 26591] Re: Baren Digest (old) V29 #2880
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I recently became a member of the Baren Forum. I am a painter, but
have been doing printmaking for the last two years - first monotypes and now
woodblock prints. I have a question concerning my current project. I am
creating an artist's book of woodcuts in the form of a scroll and I am
uncertain of what type of paper to use. Obviously, because the book will be
a scroll, the paper should be able to roll and unroll easily. The paper
needs to be at least 24" x 36" and I will be printing by hand with a baren.
Also, because I will be needing a large amount of paper, I do not want to
spend too much. $5 or $6 a sheet is the top of my range.
My work can be viewed on my web page at These
are mostly monotypes and some of my earliest woodcuts. I will soon be
updating the site and adding more recent work.

Ellen Holtzblatt
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Message 2
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 07:06:06 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26592] RE: Baren Digest (old) V29 #2879
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Bette, I love my korkoro Baren. It sure beats dealing with covering a Baren
and it gives me good color transfer.
Darrell , thanks, I will use our fine 1000 grit sandpaper and see what
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Message 3
From: L Cass
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 09:42:14 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26593] Re: printing with children
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Juan -
I used to teach art to children in grades 1-6 (6-11yr olds) and we did a
lot of printmaking - for the youngest -potato prints (using sharp spoons on
1/2 large potatoes) and for the older ones cutting shapes from a variety of
cardboards and other easily glueable 'junk' which are mounted on more board
to make relief prints, also the children enjoyed glueing string to make
different designs which printed beautifully. We also cut the styrofoam
trays (gathered from grocery stores) but some kids had trouble with it
breaking when they used too much pressure.
For inks we used poster paint applied by brush and I just remembered I
provided the older kids with pieces of plexiglass for monoprints but they
can also paint heavily on cardboard and print quickly for this - you need
tonnes of cardboard! They used large silver (metal) spoons for barens.
hope this is useful
Louise Cass
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Message 4
From: "Ramsey Household"
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 07:44:56 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26594] Re: adhesives
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YES is not archival, if that is important.

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Message 5
From: "nancy osadchuk"
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:49:29 -0700
Subject: [Baren 26595] RE: Baren Digest (old) V29 #2880 adhesives
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Last summer I took a course in box making of all things!..taught by a bookbinder. The paste recommended for Japanese papers was either wheat paste, rice paste or a paste made from cornstarch. The Nori paste (hope that's the right name) sold in tubes for Moku hanga works well and keeps forever. The others should be kept in the frig and after a few days can get pretty smelly.....and moldy. All are completely archival.
If you are feeling ambitious ,to make the cornstarch paste, use something that will stand boiling water and hold 2 Cups plus. Take 1/3 cup cold water, 1/2 cup cornstarch and mix with a paste brush to a thick even cream consistency. Add boiling water, stirring all the time till mix is up to the 2 cup mark It should be stiff enough to hold up the brush. If it gets lumpy, push it through a fine strainer, but usually this isn't necessary. Cut recipe in half if this seems like alot. Good luck.
Nancy O.
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Message 6
From: Reneeaugrin #
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:30:20 EST
Subject: [Baren 26596] Re: printing with children
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Hola Juan,

I just did a decorative paper workshop and used potatoes for printing--I
did carve designs in them ahead of time. The kids loved it. Other fruits and
vegetables work and are intriguing to the children. Apples cut cross wise
makes a nice star pattern--there must be a wealth of interesting things from
nature in Mexico to print. It was easier to have the kids brush a thin layer
of acrylic paint onto the potatoes rather than using inks.

It is so great to see the inspiration and free creativity in children, enjoy!

Renee U.
Rainy, good studio weather,in Damascus, Oregon
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Message 7
From: Barebonesart #
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:42:45 +0000
Subject: [Baren 26597] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V29 #2880 (Dec 7, 2004)
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I often adhere thin papers to heavier ones and I use the same material as Yugi Hiratsuka. If you are not in a hurry and can wait for either my memory to click in or me to get back home (12/28) I will give you the information of where to order and which one. It is a permanent archival mounting adhesive that is on the order of double stick tape in that you apply it to the back of the print, trim it to size, and remove the paper backing and place the print on the receiving paper. It is fast, neat and easier than sin. Personally, I dislike the idea of using acrylic medium over the surface of the print because that surface tells so much about the print and printer. I don't want that compromised in any fashion, but I'm a bit of a purist in some ways.

Someone asked about a ball bearing baren and I, too, have one from McClains. It is a whiz bang and enables me to print as well and almost as fast as I can use the press. I did some large Moku Hanga prints last Spring and sometimes I couldn't get the block and paper thru the press, so it was the baren or perish.

(in freezing North Dakota) Brrrrr