Today's postings

  1. [Baren 26936] Re: My prints... (Mike Lyon)
  2. [Baren 26937] (DINA CODY)
  3. [Baren 26938] roosters flocking (Reneeaugrin #
  4. [Baren 26939] Re: (Myron Turner)
  5. [Baren 26940] Re: (Barbara Mason)
  6. [Baren 26941] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V30 #2938 (Jan 27, 2005) (Sharri LaPierre)
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Message 1
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:39:43 -0600
Subject: [Baren 26936] Re: My prints...
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Connie Lambert wrote:
>Are the exchange prints woodcut only? Can the artist use woodcut in
>combination with another process?

Honestly, the Baren exchanges are intended to be woodcuts only although I
don't believe we've ever rejected submitted prints (maybe we should have in
the case of occasional giclee submissions, but we haven't). The idea is to
exchange prints which are mainly produced using woodcut or similar relief
printing methods but prints may include additional techniques (like hand
coloring, chine-colle, etc). The idea is that submitted prints be produced
primarily through woodcut or woodcut-like means and materials. Linocut and
other wood-like carved relief prints are acceptable as are relief-printed
collographs... Here's the 'official' guideline:

"MEDIUM: woodblock print (hand rubbed or pulled on a press, B&W or colour,
any pigments, any paper). Note: The Baren Exchange is a program for forum
members to create, exchange and display editions of woodblock prints.
Relief prints pulled from wood substitutes and wood-like materials,
including linoleum, corian, MDF, resingrave, and similar are acceptable as
are collagraphs. Coordinators are obligated to reject prints whose primary
method of production is by other means. For example: monotype, intaglio,
stencil, lithography, ink jet, laser, photocopy, etc are to be rejected by
the coordinator."

The complete 'rules' are published at the top of each exchange description
page -- here's a link to the current exchange (#24) -- read it
through and you should have a clear understanding of our exchange requirements.


Mike (Baren exchange manager) Lyon

Kansas City, Missouri
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Message 2
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:19:08 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26937]
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I have a question for everyone. If this topic has previously come under
discussion, I apologize in advance. For my Year of the Rooster print, I am
using a rooster image from a 1900's Chinese watercolor(the rooster is just a
small portion of the entire watercolor). I would like to enter my print in a
local exhibit, but am anticipating resistance from the gallery director
because the rooster image is not my own. I will certainly give credit to the
original artist on my print info, so I don't feel like I'm doing anything
unethical, but my question is this: does the fact that I'm using someone
else's image as a model reduce my print from being a piece of art to simply
being a piece of craftsmanship? I need to know how to talk to this director
about this and would appreciate Baren's perspective and advice. Thanks, Dina
(FREEZING in New Hampshire!)
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Message 3
From: Reneeaugrin #
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:21:37 EST
Subject: [Baren 26938] roosters flocking
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Hi Everyone,

Welcome to all new folks.

This is my first New Year Exchange and I am so enthralled with all the
creative ways to depict this handsome creature. My own print is in the works and
hopefully will be mailed out by the end of February. I've been taking them
to my Printmaking class as well as Art History classes and they are very

Dina, many artists adapt paintings into prints and just sign the title "such
and such after so and so". My own feeling is that all work is individual
and each work unique and contemporary.

I have been reading a marvelous book on Color, called Color , A Natural
History of the Palette, by Victoria Finlay. Wonderful! Great historical
information about the colors as well as her own stories as she investigates the
beginnings and saga of each pigment.

Happy New Year!

Renee U.
In beautifully mild, kind of rainy, almost Spring, Oregon.
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Message 4
From: Myron Turner
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:25:20 -0600
Subject: [Baren 26939] Re:
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Appropriation is a standard practice in post-modernist art. The matter
ulitmately boils down to the artist's intention. If you intend this print
as a reproduction only, then it's a reproduction. If you view the print as
an original work of art, that is as a work which has its own meaning apart
from the image which you've appropriated, then it's an original work of
art. After that, it's up to the viewer.


As an aside to Mike whose lamenting his advanced age of 53, alas, try 70
this coming May!
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Message 5
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:31:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 26940] Re:
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If artists were not to use others images, no one would be making art....just say "after so and so" and let it go.This gives credit to the original artist...I just saw a warhol that said "after Munch" and looked a lot like the "scream". Artists have been doing it since the dawn of time.
Best to you,
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Message 6
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:13:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26941] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V30 #2938 (Jan 27, 2005)
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Your images are outstanding - you are my kind of gal! Welcome to the
group. Combine all sorts of things, just have woodcut in there as the
primary. (You can get away with murder in this group! - well, on
second thought, maybe not murder, but they let me exaggerate from time
to time.)

BTW the most magnificent roosters keep flying in the house via my mail
box. Every one of them is a beauty! As soon as I have # 23, (at which
I am behind schedule due to spending the month of Dec. in North Dakota
getting a new grand daughter and took everything to work on it and did
none of it) off to Maria I will get back to the Resident Rooster. I
figure I have 1+ years, right? :-) Never fear, they will appear.