Today's postings

  1. [Baren 27586] Re: Famous Dave and La mini-summit mini-report/James Dean a... (Aqua4tis #
  2. [Baren 27587] Baren Brochures. (ArtfulCarol #
  3. [Baren 27588] Re: Even Newer Creation ("Robert Canaga")
  4. [Baren 27589] Re: Even Newer Creation (Daniel Dew)
  5. [Baren 27590] Re: Famous Dave (Robin Morris)
  6. [Baren 27591] Window, LA visit, Summit ("carolwagner")
  7. [Baren 27592] Re: Window, LA visit, Summit (Robin Morris)
  8. [Baren 27593] Re: Window, LA visit, Summit (Wanda Robertson)
  9. [Baren 27594] Re: Some questions from a newster. ("Diane Cutter")
  10. [Baren 27595] Re: Even Newer Creation ("Robert Canaga")
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Message 1
From: Aqua4tis #
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:53:32 EST
Subject: [Baren 27586] Re: Famous Dave and La mini-summit mini-report/James Dean a...
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robin and everyone
great job of reporting on our fun day i can only second what robin has
already said both bea and ruth are wonderful hostesses and have lovely
homes so much eye candy!!!
it was a very energizing day for me i want to do so many more things now
it was also fun to reconnect with bobbie gilda and maria as well
robin your books were wonderful i loved looking through them i
went home and looked at the book i told you about the one with the green
velvet cover it was published by dodge publishing company its a
beautiful little book
anyway im looking forward to the summit i want to learn to do hanga
but i also want to meet you all as ive said before im very proud to be a
member of this group
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Message 2
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:29:13 EST
Subject: [Baren 27587] Baren Brochures.
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Is it Wanda or Barbara for the Baren Brochures?
I would like additional ones for a slide/lecture coming up.
Please contact me off-line.

Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY
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Message 3
From: "Robert Canaga"
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:58:57 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27588] Re: Even Newer Creation
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Dan, Have you ever considered stenciling the dancers with a different tone of the same color? That might pop out the details a bit more and give it more depth.
Just a thought.
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Message 4
From: Daniel Dew
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:13:01 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27589] Re: Even Newer Creation
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O.K., I'm confused. Do what?

Daniel L. Dew
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Message 5
From: Robin Morris
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:53:35 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27590] Re: Famous Dave
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Things are never as simple as they seem. Fame is a weird thing, too.
You can't really have it at all until you have way too much. So Murray
was kidding- his fame as an actor made him rich- he couldn't have got
rich on it first.
Anyway, Dave, this begs the question- why not charge them at least
union scale next time? They seem to love to use you as an unpaid actor!
i wonder if the guy in the pink blazer, or the gals in the band, were
working gratis? Maybe you need an agent for TV appearances. But then I
suppose you appear ungrateful, in that land of all politeness...Just a

As far as why such appearances seem to have so little effect, it may
have something to do with television and its captive audience. The
watchers may be stirred for a moment, but there is a show after the one
you were on, and one after that. So much easier to watch someone work,
or better yet just see the "green flash" as the print is pulled- how
EASY! A mental child in a pink suit could do this! But thwe audience
isn't fooled. They've seen lots of spectacular sights. And they will
see much more. I myself have watched the webcam, dreaming. But your
hard work can't fire me up any further. I have to turn off the apple,
just as a TV watcher would have to unscrew the cable for a
get any real work done. Your dvds at galleries and museum stores is a
better bet to bring you subs and garner real printmaking interest. Then
someone is reaching, asking, not sitting at home being tube-fed.
That said, I'll be watching this later today- thanks very much. How
they cover a single difficult print's production (and how you were able
to do your best under those conditions) is of interest.

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Message 6
From: "carolwagner"
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:43:20 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27591] Window, LA visit, Summit
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Heads up, group! I've just installed a window exhibit of Baren postcards
(sheep, monkeys' and some roosters) and the deck of cards, along with
some of my tools purchased through the Baren Mall (Murisaki
baren,brushes, other assorted tools, a copy of the Salter book, and my
precious copy of" The Art of the Print" People are already popping in
and asking if the prints are for sale, so I am sending them to the baren
website and informing them that they can access members web sites, but
if any of you have postcard prints left over that you would sell let me
know off list and I will include that info with the exhibit.

Oh Robin, I'm so envious that you got to visit with those talented
ladies from the LA area, as well as with Baren's Las Vegas dynamo. I
almost got to meet Maria when she was scheduled for an Art Festival here
in Sacramento, at the Convention Center, but she was ill, cancelled, and
never scheduled the Sacramento venue again. So I'm hoping she will be at
this summer's meet and that I can attend. There are three of us bareners
here in the Sacramento area, as well as several in the Bay area-it's
only an hour or two drive from here to San Francisco. Don't suppose you
will be coming through this area?

Congratulations David, I will try to download the TV show, but not
having Broadband, it will probably take more time than I usually have. I
can only hope that you will be attending this summer's Summit, as it
would be marvelous watching you work in 'real time'.

Best to all
Carol in Sacramento
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Message 7
From: Robin Morris
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:24:16 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27592] Re: Window, LA visit, Summit
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Carol, is there a summit this summer- ? If so someone clue me in...I
admit i don't read all letters at baren, maybe I missed some important
the one in the NW they are arranging is not till next summer. But yes I
consider the BA my stompin ground, and I would ask you and any bareners
from the west to please get in touch with me. about getting your work
on the dvd (Back East please contact Kevin Hull, our East Coast
operative, to see what might be worked out.
If i can make a midwestern trip this year I might, as I wanna see
Kansas City, and meet Gayle and Jim, and visit my old home town,
Champaign , Illinois.
Sacramento is only a hop from here.
I was here in my place Saturday morning at 3, at Bea's in LA at ten am
,and back here Sunday night at ten. I had to write my report to kind of
pinch myself and make sure it wasn't a dream.
The more we can do to document everyone's work and prints soon, the
easier it will be for us to edit and finalize the material for the dvd
project, and the better it can be, with plenty of review and input from
the council and members-at-large.
In my experience the editing always takes the most time and effort,
the shooting is fun but to get it done early lets the video look
polished and not rushed.
I am open to having a visitor or three here in Pacifica as well, where
one could chill (they call this Fogtown) and enjoy the crashing waves,
perhaps carve or pull some prints at the "Pacific Printbench" that
looks out at the pier.
Bea, my bench is a lot like yours...akua colors at the side, a drafting
table for the slant. I would love you to visit and print here sometime
if you'd like to. Same goes for the rest of you gals I met over the
weekend. I have no press tho.
Its just a baren around here.
I don't know how long I can afford this place (renting) but I do know
it is a fun place to be.
Get back to me if you'd like to set up a visit Carol- and btw Maria
will be at the King's Mountain art fair this year, she says.
So why not come down then and meet her? That's Bay Area...I'll be
there I hope, as I want to shoot her in action with customers, doing
demo carving etc.
It is a lovely event in a forest on a blocked- off road. Attended it
many years ago.

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Message 8
From: Wanda Robertson
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:02:28 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27593] Re: Window, LA visit, Summit
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Nope, the Summit will be in August 2006!
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Message 9
From: "Diane Cutter"
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:04:35 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27594] Re: Some questions from a newster.
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Barbara... and Beth...

Another thing I learned using Akua-Kolors is they work better if they've been exposed to the air somewhat. I squirt mine into a watercolor palette, adding to the wells as I need more color. It rolls better if it has been out of the bottle for a day or two...

Diane... - internet artist community

If you decide to use akua kolor I can give you lots of help, it is easier to roll it on than brush it on. It acts a lot like oil based ink as it stays wet for a long time. This has it's advantages. The trick with rolling any ink on is to have it thin on the slab, thin on the roller and put lots of layers on the block. Usually you will be using a small roller, so you need to go back to the slab and pick up ink often as rolling it more on the block will not magically produce more ink, it will just move around what is there. It is a real temptation to just keep rolling even though the roller has long since run out of ink. You want the ink thin, it will always give you a better print.Roll from the center of the block to the edges.
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Message 10
From: "Robert Canaga"
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:26:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27595] Re: Even Newer Creation
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Cutting a stencil of the image you want to come forward or "pop" and inking it in a slightly modified color. Say you start with a dark blue then ad a tiny amount of trans red of violet, then stencil it over the dancers and print the whole thing. Works great and will lead to many new ideas.