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Message 1
From: "carolwagner"
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 07:38:56 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27660] McClain's has cherry
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Dear all,

McClain's has cherry, I just ordered some last night. Maria's siren song
got to me.

Princess, your work is magnificent, and lezle, you inspire me to attempt
some engraving on that Resin grave. In any event, I ordered the book on
working with it. What a pleasure it is to see the work of all my fellow
Baroners!

Regards,
Carol in Sacramento

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Message 2
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:42:20 EST
Subject: [Baren 27661] Re: siren speaks of delights of cherry
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Maria hard maple works much better than soft just keep your tools
sharp and keep a set of chisels and a mallet handy for clearing.

john c.

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Message 3
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:49:15 EST
Subject: [Baren 27662] Re: siren speaks of delights of cherry
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I forgot to add wood purchased from a art supply house cost 3 times as much
as wood from a lumber yard. Check your local lumber yard if they don't have
it they might know who does.
Any place that sells to furniture makers will have cherry or hard maple.
A little sanding is the only difference between the wood from an art supply
house vs a lumber yard. If you don't have this kind of lumber yard handy go
on line.

john c.

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Message 4
From: "DePry Clan"
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:11:22 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27663] Re: woodcut intaglio
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Minwax Sanding sealer is a quality product and I have found One coat at the start is good and another at the end after cutting.
Double D

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Message 5
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:51:43 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27664] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3020 (Apr 1
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McClains sells plank cherry blocks. www.imcclains.com

I found that Home Despot and others do not have cherry, neither did my
local lumber yards. I had to go to a specialty hardwood place in
Portland.
Happy Googling!
Sharri

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Message 6
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:02:03 -0600
Subject: [Baren 27665] Re: Congrats! and Why varnish?
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Carol L wrote:
>the fault may be in the sharpening, or the lack of it.

That's exactly where the chipping's coming from on your shina,
Carol... Get a cheap pair of #4 reading glasses and look at the "sharp"
edge of your tool(s) while you hold it up to the light, turning it to try
to catch a reflection off the sharp edge... The sharp edge should always
be totally invisible -- if you see ANY reflection, it's NOT SHARP (well,
that's not the only way to tell -- if the wood chips and tears when you
carve it with a tool, that's another way to tell the tool's not sharp)... :)

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 7
From: DADI # aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:47:12 EST
Subject: [Baren 27666] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3020 (Apr 1
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I have been working on a series of three woodcuts, 16" X 20" . I used birch
3/4"plywood from our lumber yard for the first two. I then bought two 4x 8
sheet of 1/2" birch plywood from Menards and in carving I have come across
large (1/2") defects under the veneer.
Has anyone else encountered this? Are there different grades Is there some
plywood which has thicker veneer? I am afraid that I will have to go through a
lot of wood putty on this print. The second board will go back to Menards!

Dale Phelps

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Message 8
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:05:12 -0600
Subject: [Baren 27667] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3020 (Apr 1
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Dale wrote:
>I have been working on a series of three woodcuts, 16" X 20" . I used
>birch 3/4", plywood from our lumber yard for the first two. I then bought
>two 4x 8 sheet of 1/2" birch plywood from Menards and in carving I have
>come across large (1/2") defects under the veneer.

There are MANY different grades of plywood -- tell your supplier that you
don't want ANY voids in the plys and they may tell you they can't help
you! Imported from Russia "Baltic Birch" 5/8" plywood (or 3/8" or 1/4")
comes in 5x5 foot sheets and is generally VERY high quality -- but still
has SOME small voids and 'dart' repairs on one side, but nothing like
construction grade birch plywood -- you can ask for one side or both sides
'cabinet grade' and pay more and receive fewer voids in 4x8 foot stock, but
because of the way plywood is manufactured, you won't find stock which is
TOTALLY free of voids unless you make it yourself, I think... Fro 16x20
you can also glue up 20 inch long planks of any wood you like to make the
16 inch width and then plane and sand or have a local cabinet shop make
these up for you and thickness them as well as sand -- then you'll have
something most useful (and expensive)...

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 9
From: DADI # aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 15:13:37 EST
Subject: [Baren 27668] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3020 (Apr 1
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Thanks Mike,
I did get cabinet grade, finished on both sides, so that I could use both
sides - I used 5 runs on the last print, 3 boards. The first was from a standard
lumber yard as apposed to Menards so I may have to go back to that. I will
check to see if the Russian wood makes it to Waterloo, Iowa!
Dale Phelps

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Message 10
From: Aon97 # aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 15:51:51 EST
Subject: [Baren 27669] Electric carvers
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Hello, everyone. I know this whole topic will upset some people, and if it
weren't me, well, I'd be upset, too. I cringe at any artwork that uses
computers, I hate the idea of electric presses, etc. But, anyway, I saw an incredible
tool last night on television. It was an electric chisel. It was beautiful,
like erasing wood in fine lines.

Don't hate me, but I got pretty excited. In my defense, I do have worsening
carpal tunnel, but I try to consider my numb fingers a badge of honor, a small
price to pay for the work I do.

Question: Will anyone out there admit to using this tool? Would you think
less of me (you don't know me, but pretend you did). I mean, when I discovered
Sabra Field stopped doing woodcuts and that all her current prints were inkjets,
I was pretty steamed. Somehow an electric chisel feels like cheating.

So, I'd just like some feedback from anyone with an opinion, as you've all
been very good advising me in the past.

Thanks,
Jeff
Hamburg NY

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Message 11
From: "MPereira"
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:50:54 -0300
Subject: [Baren 27670] Re: Electric carvers
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>Question: Will anyone out there admit to using this tool? Would you think less of me? "

"a arte não pede licença * a arte toma liberdades "

" art doesn't ask permission - art takes liberties"

says JornalRioArteCultura.Com

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Message 12
From: Aon97 # aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:02:11 EST
Subject: [Baren 27671] Re: Electric carvers
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Murillo wrote:

> " art doesn't ask permission - art takes liberties"

Hmmm...well, thank you. At least I'm covered with justifications! Of course,
now I feel all guilty about the bad juju I sent Sabra. Nothing's easy.

Thanks,
jeff

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Message 13
From: "Beth Zentzis"
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:11:34 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27672] Re: Cherry...
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Forgive my not knowing, but are you all saying that it is a big no-no to use
cherry plywood? Of course it won't be as beautiful, but what are the issues
there in terms of function?

Beth

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Message 14
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:38:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27673] Re: Electric carvers
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Please, what is the name of that tool? I do woodcarving (sculpture) and have
used electric chisels from time to time but not on relief carving.
Matt Laine

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Message 15
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:52:10 EST
Subject: [Baren 27674] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3020 (Apr 1
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these defects are a major problem with plywood even in the best grades there
is one kind of plywood with very thin vaneers in it that has the defects
filled in. wish i could rember the name of the stuff.

john c.

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Message 16
From: Dave Bull
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:17:51 +0900
Subject: [Baren 27675] Interesting woodcut website ...
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Take a visit to the new website for Paul Blazek, an architect who has
been here in Japan studying printmaking with Richard Steiner down in
Kyoto for a couple of years:

http://www.paulblazek.net

Dave

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Message 17
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:31:30 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27676] Re: Electric carvers, and plywood voids
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http://orthocast.com/ws/lab.htm

http://www.thetoolshed.co.nz/products/areas/echisels.htm

search for "electric chisel" at http://woodworker.com/main_index.html

Use whatever suits you and with which you feel comfortable. Who cares what
others think about it? How will they know anyway if you do not tell them?
Some folks use cameras for their images, others do not. Some folks use
digitally controlled carving equipment, others do not. Just produce your art.

And for really high quality plywood, try "marine grade" ... supposed to
have no voids.

Cheers ... Charles

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Message 18
From: "Robert Canaga"
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:01:37 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27677] Re: Electric carvers
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I have used one for clearing large areas but not for fine work. I tried one
of the new ones out at woodcrafters and thought about buying one but could
not quite do it.
You still need all the skill and you still need the vision, so I don't think
they are that bad. Maybe someday....
RC

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