Today's postings

  1. [Baren 28838] Re: Blogs and other stuff (Shireen Holman)
  2. [Baren 28839] Re: Carol's horror story ... (L Cass)
  3. [Baren 28840] Re: blogs (tfl4467 #
  4. [Baren 28841] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V32 #3206 (Sep 27, 2005) ("Ellen Shipley")
  5. [Baren 28842] Re: blogs (L Cass)
  6. [Baren 28843] Re: blogs (tfl4467 #
  7. [Baren 28844] Re: Exchange and other ramblings... (Charles Morgan)
  8. [Baren 28845] Reduction Block ("Ellen Shipley")
  9. [Baren 28846] Re: blogs ("Matt Laine")
  10. [Baren 28847] barens (Barbara Mason)
  11. [Baren 28848] Signing our work (ArtfulCarol #
  12. [Baren 28849] Re: Signing our work (bridget pilip)
  13. [Baren 28850] Re: Signing our work ("Ellen Shipley")
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Message 1
From: Shireen Holman
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:45:38 -0400
Subject: [Baren 28838] Re: Blogs and other stuff
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Thanks Mindy and Ellen for your nice compliments! I'm glad you looked at my
site. Like Jeanne, I haven't yet gotten into blogging (if that's a word).

Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist
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Message 2
From: L Cass
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:47:55 -0400
Subject: [Baren 28839] Re: Carol's horror story ...
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Dave -Thanks so much for making the Zweig story available and thanks to
Carol for mentioning it in the first place! And one more thankyou to April
for the interesting pics from Berlin!
re Blogs - I'm not afraid to say I hate the idea - a website is difficult
enough but at least can be designed to look attractive and give info (my
own is badly in need of updating and improving) I find the 'complete
profile' link on the blogs really silly as it gives only gender and birth
sign and we already are aware of the person's occupation. I know it's nice
to see work in progress.(and I have been viewing them)...but it must be
very time consuming to keep updating the blog -a relative in the UK relied
on this format years ago and has finally given it up - maybe it's a passing
fad and we who are not doing it or don't care for it can sit it out without
feeling we must follow the trend.
Another thanks for all the discussion re ball-bearing barens - I'm putting
it on a Christmas wish list
I've just finished cutting the image for exchange #26 - have acquired some
beautiful papers at the Japanese paper Place's warehouse sale last week and
will be printing on a variety of papers -I've done this before as I love
all the papers and can't seem to restrict myself to the same one for a
print run - is this very unorthodox - should one still number them in
sequence or not??
How are others doing with exchange #26?? - we've only had 2 comments so far
-3 with mine-
regards to all
Louise (blogdeprived) C.
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Message 3
From: tfl4467 #
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:55:38 -0600
Subject: [Baren 28840] Re: blogs
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Hey Louise,

I swore and swore I wouldn't do a blog. I could just rattle on and on about stuff
and end up appearing to be an idiot. Then I discovered Illustration and
saw the need for a blog. It does seem to take a while to scan my images, load them
to this photo site and then write my blog message and load my image onto it. (sigh)
But, I have enjoyed it. I said those same words you did! Maybe it is a fad! But,
for some it is an easy way to participate in the web, and so many of them are free!
I love going to view artist's web pages or blogs, and see all of their new work.
But, I must admit I went months before updating my own!

Mindy Wilson
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Message 4
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:58:01 -0700
Subject: [Baren 28841] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V32 #3206 (Sep 27, 2005)
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Heck guys,

A blog can just be a gallery with notation. That's all I use mine for! I
don't chat there or anything. It does give me someplace to talk about my
prints tho, largely for my own reference.

So jump in. The water's fine. 8-]

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Message 5
From: L Cass
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:09:44 -0400
Subject: [Baren 28842] Re: blogs
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Hi Mindy -

I'm glad you didn't jump on me for my nasty words - I was going to
apologize with a P.S. in any case -
I think what I object to mostly is the term BLOG that you are forced to use
-an unsightly and dull word-whoever thought it up in the first place??!! I
believe nonvisual people use it - even Biopics or just plain Log seem more

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Message 6
From: tfl4467 #
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:16:40 -0600
Subject: [Baren 28843] Re: blogs
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LOL! Not a chance to me to get offended. I agree! Louise, perhaps the person
that chose the word Blog also call their children offspring. I think it
actually came from a term weblog. But, I just think I read that some place.

And to be called a Blogger,it doesn't sound creative at all.

I have notice there Live Journals. This sounds all together nicer, and far
more interesting. ;)
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Message 7
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:17:14 -0700
Subject: [Baren 28844] Re: Exchange and other ramblings...
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I would suggest that before opting for the "pin press", you try a marble
rolling pin ... or even a wooden one. They are readily available new ...
but I have found several in junk stores. They work fine as is, but I found
the rod through the middle to be a bit light weight if I wanted to put a
lot of pressure on. Sooo, I just got a 3/8 steel rod from the hardware
store, pulled the handles off the old rod and drilled them out a bit for
the new rod, and drilled out the plastic collars in the ends of the roller
for the new rod. Now I have scookum rollers that you can really bear down
with. The marble rolling pin will be as smooth and accurate as metal "pin
press", and a LOT cheaper.

Cheers ..... Charles
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Message 8
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:22:16 -0700
Subject: [Baren 28845] Reduction Block
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I've uploaded the first carving on a reduction block to my blog below. This
is my first attempt at one and I'm making it up as I go along. ;-]

Ellen, CA
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Message 9
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:46:35 -0400
Subject: [Baren 28846] Re: blogs
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It comes from "web log"
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Message 10
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 28847] barens
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Come to the summitt next August and try stuff....we will ask everyone to bring their ball bearing barens. The pin press works well for monotypes. It does not work as well for relief as you need a lot of specific pressure for relief. With a roller that can not do a lot of pressure like a press, you will get the edges very well but likely to get less pressure in the middle. If the block is small you can get better prints. If it is large it would be hard to print with a rolling pin or pin press. The advantage of the pin press over the rolling pin is the very strong stainless steel rod down the middle that gives you even pressure. Printing an edition with this press is exhausting for me.

A good bamboo covered baren will print waterbased ink perfectly, even large areas that need flat even color. Of course the answer is the skill of the printmaker in printing and the right bamboo covered baren for the job. The young lady printer at the Adachi demo had a plastic bag full of barens, all beautifully tied. Some of these barens are very expensive and this may be why some people use the ball bearing barens. I am using them for printing oil based ink, very different from printing waterbased ink. In the class I took last summer from Richard Steiner we parcticed on waterbased ink with a ball bearing baren. It is hard not to get the baren suji marks with this baren as it is putting pressure in lots of tiny spots on the back of the paper, where the bamboo baren will be putting pressure on a larger area. I think it takes doing a lot of printing and having all the tools and deciding which one is right for the particular image you are working on. I don't think I will live lo
enough to figure it all out!
Best to all,
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Message 11
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:01:27 EDT
Subject: [Baren 28848] Signing our work
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2 cents about signing:

What's in a Name?

Many years ago , after returning from a gallery tour of NYC , I mentioned to
my husband that so may artists have long ethnic names, My name and the one
I signed all my art with was Carol Lyons, a name shared by many. "You have
another name" he said. "GREBLEZNIK, your maiden name backwards" Yes, years
ago I realized that that was my maiden name backwards. Hasn't everyone
figured out what their name was when spelled backwards?

I decided to use that name for my more abstract art. It was unique and
denoted my Russian heritage. When using GREBLEZNIK I took on a different persona
and worked with a special abandon. The "risk it" way of going about my
art developed into new works, beginning with the "Risk It!" series..

I was pleased to have GREBLEZNIKS published in art magazines, but when two
of those works were acquired for the Collections of Hermitage Museum,
Russia, (Google: GREBLEZNIK and Art) ,there was a special sense of

_ (

Sign your name! How else are you to be identified?

Carol Lyons
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Message 12
From: bridget pilip
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:17:06 -0700
Subject: [Baren 28849] Re: Signing our work
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Can't help but to respond to this one...
My maiden name spelled backward is PILIP.
Spelled forward it is PILIP. Not too much help on that one.
I do love the "Greblezniks" Carol.
My last name changed a few times (bad male selection) so now i just sign
my work BRIDGET.
But, to get back to dating work...
If I had used my full name all the time it would definitely help date
the work!
your baren mall assistant
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Message 13
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:47:41 -0700
Subject: [Baren 28850] Re: Signing our work
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What a coupe Carol! Your invented persona is famous! I love it.

I do a similar thing with my poetry -- when I'm being "less than polite" I have another name I use. It allows me to write with abandon and not worry about the consequences. ;-> And I get a big kick out of it.

Ellen, CA