Today's postings

  1. [Baren 29301] Re: looking at prints (Barbara Mason)
  2. [Baren 29302] Re: looking at prints (Mike Lyon)
  3. [Baren 29303] Re: mini-print exchange ("robert")
  4. [Baren 29304] Re: Two Things (Mary Brooks-Mueller)
  5. [Baren 29305] Print Values ("Tom Kristensen")
  6. [Baren 29306] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
  7. [Baren 29307] Re: Baren Member blogs: Update Notification ("M Pereira")
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Message 1
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:48:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 29301] Re: looking at prints
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Thanks Mike,
I spent quite a bit of time wandering around this site...amazing amount of information and questions here. I loved the page about the rabbits but could not fine it again to list it everyone will have to hunt for it. Let me know if you find it!
Best to all,
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Message 2
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:54:49 -0600
Subject: [Baren 29302] Re: looking at prints
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Jerry's 'rabbit' page is here:

-- Mike
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Message 3
From: "robert"
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:46:49 +0000
Subject: [Baren 29303] Re: mini-print exchange
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hello charles,
My Name is Robert Viana and I am interested in the exchange. Could you email me some details? Thank you.
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Message 4
From: Mary Brooks-Mueller
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:20:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 29304] Re: Two Things
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Hello Tyrus,
I print with mulberry often and it does move quite a
Damping does help.

Also, when I set up my registration/printing table, I
have clamp set up that I use to hold the paper down at
least along 2 edges. The clamps are made of 4 separate
strips of wood 1"thick x 2"wide x 36" long and on the
face I have glued 1/4inch layer of cork for cushion.
two pieces of the wood are screwed into my printing
table at the registration corner - cork side up. I lay
one corner of the paper across it and clamp it down
with the other 2 pieces, cork side down. I use
traditional furniture "handscrews" to clamp.

I also use old planchas, clothes irons (again with a
cork liner attached) as weights and lay them directly
on the paper about 12-18" apart around the area I am
printing and move them as I print.
I just print real slow with mulberry, and move bit by
bit. Of course, I use oil-base ink, so it allows for

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Message 5
From: "Tom Kristensen"
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:25:49 +1100
Subject: [Baren 29305] Print Values
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Barbara and Colleen are trying to work out how much to pay for old prints sold on the internet.

The value of a print is determined by the desirability to print collectors. the value may go down if there are many similar prints on the market. For instance, Shin Hanga is going cheap since the release of the Robert Muller collection following his death in 2003. Conversely prints will go up in value after the release of a book or an exhibition of an artist's work. The rarity and condition of a piece together with the power of the work are of course the main drivers of the value.

Internet auctions, like Ebay are a good way to buy prints at a fair price. The reserve price is usually reasonable and the print is usually what the vendor claims it to be. By checking the history of the vendor you can see if others have been happy with their purchases. If previous sales have attracted many bids, this will indicate that the reserves are set low. If the vendor has a long list of prints that attract no bids it could be that the reserves are too high. If you are unsure of the value, be conservative and follow the trend, dont bid much beyond the reserve.

Another way to quickly get a grasp of the value of a print is to use the massive archives of the artelino auction site. To receive the dollar values you will need to register with an email address (easy), but anyone can look at the pictures,
This site keeps a good scan and condition report of every print sold. There are thousands to study. Barbara asks for the names of some undervalued artists (with fish):
Kyosai Kawanabe,
Zeshin Shibata,
For amazing Chinese fish prints try Cheng Hsu,

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Message 6
From: Blog Manager
Date: 21 Nov 2005 04:55:02 -0000
Subject: [Baren 29306] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.

The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (10 sites checked, just before midnight Eastern time)


Site Name: Mike Lyon's Moku Hanga

Author: Mike Lyon
Item: Press almost complete!

Author: Mike Lyon
Item: A brief 'break' to make a table


[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
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Message 7
From: "M Pereira"
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:55:51 -0200
Subject: [Baren 29307] Re: Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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Olá Mike, tentei deixar uma mensagem no blog mas nao entrou.
Prensa ótima mas
what I like more was the furniture...hummm.....
your friend