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Message 1
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:31:41 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29327] Re: MOMA, rice paste
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Mary Ann wrote:
>Hello all,
>My sister is visiting NYC just now and recommened this
>online exhibit. I have always admired KiKi Smith's
>imaginative sensibility in her work. There is also a
>stunning Odilon Redon exhibit that you can view as
>well.
>Mary Ann
>
>http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2003/kikismith/

Hello Mary Ann,

Thanks for this link ... her work is fascinating ... did not see it all on
my slow connection, but I will definitely go back to it.

I tried your method of making rice paste. Put a cup of plain, white Basmati
rice in a pan with two cups of water and let is soak for a day ... not much
change. Then I added two more cups of water and boiled it for an hour,
adding more water from time to time. By the end I had a total of 7-8 cups
of water and one cup of rice. It was all very soupy. I strained out all the
fluid I could using a standard kitchen strainer ... put it in a jar in the
fridge. It congealed like jello ... very smooth. Did not want to waste the
rice mush, so I put it in a blender ... had to add a bit more water so it
would actually blend. It turned out to be very smooth as well ... put it in
a separate jar. Both seem to dry clear when applied to paper. My real goal
is to try using it for screen printing ...

Sooo, thanks for putting me on to this method of making paste.

Cheers .... Charles

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Message 2
From: Mary Brooks-Mueller
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:53:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 29328] Re: MOMA, rice paste
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Hi Charles,
Yes, KiKi Smith reminds me a little bit of Leonard
Baskin in her use of lines.

How are you planning to use the paste for serigraphy?
Adding pigment to it? or for collage?

Congrats on making the rice paste! You should have
plenty to work with now!

Yours, Mary Ann

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Message 3
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:40:18 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29329] Re: MOMA, rice paste
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Mary Ann wrote:
>How are you planning to use the paste for serigraphy?
>Adding pigment to it? or for collage?

Simply combine with pigments from Guerra. I have done this with corn starch
and get lovely, transparent colors that seem to "glow". But the corn starch
paste tends to buckle the paper. I have also used commercial wall paper
paste, which is just "modified" starches, and that does not seem to buckle
so much. I wanted to try rice paste to see how it would work ... after all,
those Hanga printers do not seem to have a problem with buckling.

Cheers ..... Charles

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Message 4
From: Mary Brooks-Mueller
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:03:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 29330] Re: MOMA, rice paste
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Charles, as an old hand at bookarts, I never had a
binding, overleaf or handmade box buckle or warp
either using rice paste. It also doesn't tarnish. Good
luck and will wait to see your colors!
Mary Ann

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Message 5
From: "Patricia Phare-Camp"
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:27:58 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29331] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V33 #3270 (Nov 25, 2005)
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"Have Bareners ever used their elbows to print : and how did you do it?"

Hi Harry: I read up on David's techniques when I saw his entry for one of
the 2004 Calendars. I tried the elbow method to emboss my new years card
for 2005 and it worked great. I've also used my elbow to print areas in
mixed media works when found objects or raised areas interfered with the
block making contact with the substrate. My elbow was hard enough to push
the paper around the raised areas and soft enough not to cause the paper to
tear. This allowed the ink to reach all areas of the paper and transfer
image onto 3 dimensional elements in the finished work.

Patti P-C

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