Today's postings

  1. [Baren 29445] old dogs (Cate Fitt)
  2. [Baren 29446] Photocopy vs Computer ("Tom Kristensen")
  3. [Baren 29447] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
  4. [Baren 29448] Re: Baren Member blogs: Update Notification ("M Pereira")
  5. [Baren 29449] Re: Photocopy vs Computer (Julio.Rodriguez #
  6. [Baren 29450] Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 00:28:24 -0800 (Bretsch Katie)
  7. [Baren 29451] Re: Baren Summit Survey/Info (Julio.Rodriguez #
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Message 1
From: Cate Fitt
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 23:42:12 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29445] old dogs
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My sister (Annie F) is right about Gaston Phoebus. If you google him
you will get to the Bibliotheque Nationale de France. They have about
50 pages from his treatise on the hunt. It is a wealth of dog images as
I well know because I have been making prints based on it for almost
two years. Medieval tapestries have lots of dogs. Another source of old
dogs is Pompeii - famously Cave Canem (Beware of the Dog) in mosaic. I
don't have any good tips for Egypt because I haven't made any prints
based on their dogs yet.
If you want a dog with a frisbee, just do the google image search for
dog + frisbee.

Cate Fitt
Richmond, Virginia
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Message 2
From: "Tom Kristensen"
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:15:21 +1100
Subject: [Baren 29446] Photocopy vs Computer
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Mike raises the possibility of using a photocopy pasted right side up for a hanshita. I use my home computer to make hanshita and I always paste right side up - which means I prepare my artwork in reverse. While it is dead easy to paste any piece of paper down and carve straight through, I think tissue paper is superior. Because it is thin it allows more accurate carving and will not lift off the block. It is also less likely to trap air when pasting because any air bubles will pat through the paper. I think it may absorb more paste as well, creating a superior bond. Tissue does have its drawbacks. To use tissue means having a backing paper to run it through the printer and also when pasting, so it is a bit fiddly. Plus it does not like heavy printing, so designs must be fine lines and pale shades of grey.

I do not have a kento on my design but a complete border, from which I take the kento. This border allows me to check that the design has transferred without distortion.

I agree the simplest approach is to just print out a piece of paper - with kento - stick it down, wait an hour, and start carving. Too easy?

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Message 3
From: Blog Manager
Date: 7 Dec 2005 04:55:03 -0000
Subject: [Baren 29447] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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Message 4
From: "M Pereira"
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:02:03 -0200
Subject: [Baren 29448] Re: Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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Hi. I wrote a text "refletions about doing art" in my blog;

please read and let your comments

it's in English

thank you

truly it was a message about things from here

but as it became too big

i put it in the blog.

Please go see and say something

and let me know waht is wrong
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Message 5
From: Julio.Rodriguez #
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 02:19:07 -0600
Subject: [Baren 29449] Re: Photocopy vs Computer
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I think for most images and most of us reversing the image via
computer/copier, making a bunch of copies and pasting it right side up may
work just fine as described.

Traditionally the kyogo (color separations) are created by taking as many
impressions as needed from the keyblock itself AFTER it has been carved.
This way the color separations and the keyblock can be as accurate a match
as possible and thus allowing for minute carving "adjustments".....if you
print all your color separations first and you have fine lines in the
keyblock your registration could be slightly off.....( I guess you could
scan the impression from the keyblock in your computer including the kento
and then reverse the image and print your color separations that way....)

here is link to a how-to section for the traditional method:

Somebody had a question about what to use to print sumi
is normally used but usually not at full strength...more like a dark grey
(you can warm or cool your black as desired by adding a tint of other
colors).....sometimes a keyblock is not printed with black but with other
colors for effect and sometimes like in some Yoshida prints I have the
bottom of a landscape keyblock is printed with the traditional black color
and the sky/clouds part of the keyblock are printed with a lighter

The use of transparent pigments is very important when doing an image with
fine keyblock lines. Since the keyblock is usually printed first the use
of opaque water pigments is not recommended. Of course you could print
your keyblock last
but if you run into any paper/wood movement while doing a print run it
would be hard to catch problems with registration w/o having a keyblock
outline as a guide. Depending on the weather, the time of the year,
etc...a multi-block color print can take anywhere from days to weeks to
complete (depending on edition size)....using the keyblock outline to
good registration during the process is key.

Julio Rodriguez
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Message 6
From: Bretsch Katie
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:28:23 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [Baren 29450] Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 00:28:24 -0800
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Did I read that there is a Baren gathering planned for Oregon? More
info? Sounds like big fun!
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Message 7
From: Julio.Rodriguez #
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 02:38:08 -0600
Subject: [Baren 29451] Re: Baren Summit Survey/Info
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Here is the link for the survey page Maria put together for the Baren
gathering in Oregon, 2006...after you enter your selections you will be
taken to a page to see the results of the tabulations so far....we have
50+ survey entries so far...