Today's postings

  1. [Baren 29771] Methyl cellulose consistency (Nels Johnson)
  2. [Baren 29772] Re: Baren Member blogs: Update Notification ("Mindy Wilson")
  3. [Baren 29773] Power Grip ("April Vollmer")
  4. [Baren 29774] Re: Michi or Shizumi?...Dockyard Micro Tool Set width? ("robert")
  5. [Baren 29775] Re: How Brave! ("Ellen Shipley")
  6. [Baren 29776] Re: How Brave! (tfl4467 #
  7. [Baren 29777] Re Baren V34 #3325 (Jan 6, 2006) ("carolwagner")
  8. [Baren 29778] Re: Woodblock prints on display in Idaho ... (Sharri LaPierre)
  9. [Baren 29779] Re: Power Grip (T & P Rashid)
  10. [Baren 29780] portfolio cases? (Cucamongie #
  11. [Baren 29781] tools (Melinda)
  12. [Baren 29782] Re: portfolio cases? (Bette Norcross Wappner)
  13. [Baren 29783] portfolio cases (cucamongie #
  14. [Baren 29784] Re: portfolio cases? (Barbara Mason)
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Message 1
From: Nels Johnson
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 07:28:32 -0600
Subject: [Baren 29771] Methyl cellulose consistency
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Hi Marilyn,

I have also recently started to use methyl cellulose for printing. I
have experienced the same as you wish the solution becoming more
viscous after a while. I have used it this way and have had no
problems. As to whether you use more or less of it in this state
compared to the more fresher more fluid state I cannot answer. I do
think it is designed to be used in the more viscous state.

Best of luck printing.


"I used Methyl cellulose for the first time. I
mixed it to a fairly loose consistency. As I worked with it it turned
to a
jelly consistency. What should I do with this??? Should it sit and
than be
mixed adding more water? Should it be the thin consistency that I have
always used with the rice paste????"
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Message 2
From: "Mindy Wilson"
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:28:31 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29772] Re: Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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Dear M. Lee,

I really enjoy your prints. I have imagined the images being printed as fine
paper and tissue. Thank you for sharing your news in your blog so that we
may hear all about your fun creations. Also, I knew nothing of Esty and have
sent the link to some other artists too.

Have a great day,
Mindy Wilson
SCBWI Member sample images of many genres visual blog

Author of In a Parrot's Shoes illustrated by Ed Woodward III
Illustrator for The Halloween Tree written by Tina Roark
found here: under the children's section.
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Message 3
From: "April Vollmer"
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:19:52 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29773] Power Grip
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I like the Power Grip set too, it is another name for the five piece carving
set that Lee Valley carries. It is the best beginner set I have found, $25
to $30. There are several other places that carry it, including Japan
Woodworker. The limitation is that the knife won't last past a few
sharpenings as there is not a lot of steel there.

Methyl cellulose needs to sit overnight to be sure all the grains are
absorbed into the water. I think rice paste is a little smoother to use, but
it goes bad faster.

After a quiet holiday, things are happening for 2006. I was pleased to have
two prints accepted in the Philadelphia Print Collaborative show "What a
Relief" at Spector Gallery, opening January 20. (You are invited!

Then I was asked to show and give a talk at the Japanese Cherry Blossom
Sakura Festival in Brooklyn April 29 and 30.

Then I was invited to teach a weeklong workshop at Cabrillo College in June.

Then I had a call to teach a weeklong workshop in Santa Fe in July!

Then I was invited to demonstrate Japanese woodblock in Visegrad, Croatia,
in August!

It never rains, it pours.

Best wishes to all for 2006!! I am working on my monster!

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Message 4
From: "robert"
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:58:38 +0000
Subject: [Baren 29774] Re: Michi or Shizumi?...Dockyard Micro Tool Set width?
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Rob here.
I use the Michi and shimizu to from the baren mall. I carve on only cherry planks and they have saved me a lot of frustration. Even being relatively new to woodcuts, I am obsessive about things, so I have about 40 different kinds of knives, gouges and chisels. Truthfully, I use the michi knive the most. I have a almost every size hangi-to and I use my 3mm and 6mm the most. even on larger works. They are very comfortable to me. Also The tiny ones I had broken the first few tries. I was to hard on them, they are sharp as hell but delicate. so I re-shaped them and learned the hard way.
Between the two, I prefer the michi. Not for any reason other than that I have more of them I think. I use a set of buck brothers shallow gouges and wide chisel to remove a lot of the larger areas. They are tough and I smack the crap out of em. I use a heavy waxed mallet for my hammer.
best luck
rob Get linked! it's free!

PS I have added a hot link to the barens site and store on the website. I hope that is ok.

> I have been using some cheap tools I got at Michaels, a five tool set
> that cost around $7.00, and they just aren't working out, so I am
> considering an upgrade. Does anyone who has used either the Michi or the
> Shimizu traditional tools available in the Baren Mall have any
> preferences for one or the other? It is hard to tell from the pictures
> if there are any significant differences between the two.

> David
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Message 5
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:04:18 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29775] Re: How Brave!
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Message 6
From: tfl4467 #
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:42:07 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29776] Re: How Brave!
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I agree. Besides the print is outstanding! I have been packing the
prints around like jewels and show them to my worthy friends and
family. I place them in frames, and trade them out and display them in
various ways around the house. I hope that my eyes have not begun to
wear the ink off of them already.

I like that some are mailed as postcards and some not.
Mindy Wilson
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Message 7
From: "carolwagner"
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:56:45 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29777] Re Baren V34 #3325 (Jan 6, 2006)
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The Lee Valley tools you mention work very well on cherry, as well as on the
shina that I have obtained from McClain's'.

Regards to all

Carol in Sacramento
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Message 8
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:00:14 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29778] Re: Woodblock prints on display in Idaho ...
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Barbara's recommendation to see Keiko Hara's show is right on. I
worked with her on the Crossing Boundaries symposium and she is a
sweetheart. Plus does the most innovative and provoking works. She is
on the faculty of one of the Walla Walla schools, but I never can
remember which one is where - Whitman or Whitworth. At any rate, if you
are in the area don't miss her show!


I use the methyl cellulose and it is quite jelly like, it doesn't fall
off the stick when I transfer it. I think you can use it exactly like
you used the rice paste. Thin it to the consistency you are used to
working with.

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Message 9
From: T & P Rashid
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:11:06 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29779] Re: Power Grip
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Congrats April on all your success. May this year continue to fruitful and

Let me know if you are ever doing a workshop in Northeast or Central

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Message 10
From: Cucamongie #
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:50:14 EST
Subject: [Baren 29780] portfolio cases?
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hi folks, excuse me if this info has been previously posted, but will there
be portfolio cases available for the mythical beasts exchange?

If so, how do I order one?

many thanks
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Message 11
From: Melinda
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:13:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 29781] tools
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The cheap sets are next to worthless, they can still
be used on balsa or foam, but that's about it. I
bought a set from rockler that worked pretty well
until i started doing detailed work. If you want a
good student set, i love the shimizu student set, it's
listed under shop #1 other knives and student sets in
the baren mall and a set of 5 runs 33.00. I don't need
to sharpen them nearly as much as my other set.
Ideally I would buy the Shimizu or the Michi knives,
from what ive heard from other printmakers, the blades
last for 10 years, and then you order a new one,
verses a new knife, they barely ever break and they
stay sharp longer. However they don't fit into my
student budget, basically you get what you pay for,
and pick the tool to fit the way you work, some people
really like the small flextools they have at
woodworking stores (also not in the student budget)
good luck

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Message 12
From: Bette Norcross Wappner
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:23:55 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29782] Re: portfolio cases?
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i think you just order it at the baren mall and specify in the details
area what exchange its for.
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Message 13
From: cucamongie #
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:27:45 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29783] portfolio cases
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hi all, you can ignore my former question about the portfolio cases, I just realized I can order one from the Baren Mall.

many thanks
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Message 14
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:14:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 29784] Re: portfolio cases?
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Yes, yes yes and yes. Just go to the mall and order one, stating the size, oban or chuban and I will ship it to you directly. We are no longer asking the coordinator to do this except on overseas orders as we were totally confused about who had ordered and paid for what when we had a delay. This way you order and receive it from the mall so if there is a problem, it is easily dealt with. Then you can print the label off the web site. Our original case maker in Japan is no longer taking orders so we are having them made in Victoria BC by David Allen, a bookbinder who has a shop there and I am storing them here in Oregon. Anyone who needs a case, just go and order it, we always have some available to ship.
Best to you,
Barbara, Mall manager