Today's postings
- [Baren 31281] Re: Mixed media with prints (Bobbi Chukran)
- [Baren 31282] Mixing Media - Focusing the Question (Annie Bissett)
- [Baren 31283] Re: Mixing Media - Focusing the Question (Bobbi Chukran)
- [Baren 31284] Mixing Media, waterbased inks (Barbara Mason)
- [Baren 31285] Re: Mixing Media, waterbased inks (Bobbi Chukran)
- [Baren 31286] Summit Exhibition (Sharri LaPierre)
- [Baren 31287] Baren members websites (Darrell Madis)
- [Baren 31288] Re: Alphabet ideas (Jan Telfer)
- [Baren 31289] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
- [Baren 31290] Re: Mixed media (Jan Telfer)
Message 1
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:57:47 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31281] Re: Mixed media with prints
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> I once, in a fit of pique caused by being unable to enter a
>'woodcut' into an exhibition tore up a perfectly good print of a
>fish, and re pasted it onto paper which I then painted and spattered
>with inks & pastels.
>
>Didnt win a prize BUT it was bought by a major sponsor!
>
Funny! And I once lost a sale because a buyer didn't like the
collage I'd added to my print! LOL!
Bobbi C.
http://www.bobbichukran.com
>'woodcut' into an exhibition tore up a perfectly good print of a
>fish, and re pasted it onto paper which I then painted and spattered
>with inks & pastels.
>
>Didnt win a prize BUT it was bought by a major sponsor!
>
Funny! And I once lost a sale because a buyer didn't like the
collage I'd added to my print! LOL!
Bobbi C.
http://www.bobbichukran.com
Message 2
From: Annie Bissett
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:29:32 -0400
Subject: [Baren 31282] Mixing Media - Focusing the Question
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Thanks everyone who responded to my [very broad] question about mixing
media. I'm not sure if I can get more specific just yet. Where I'm coming
from is that up until a year ago, printmaking was barely on my radar at all,
and then I met Matt Brown. He's trouble!
I've been focusing on moku hanga because that's what Matt taught me, but
throughout the year I've also been researching and looking at all sorts of
printmaking and really enjoying the range and variety of what's possible. I
feel committed to working in a home studio, working without a press, working
with water-based inks, and I'd like to stick with wood as much as possible,
so that narrows my options quite a bit. But there's still an awful lot to
explore.
I guess the question I was trying to ask was, what other printmaking methods
would integrate smoothly with moku hanga? Can you do drypoint on plexi with
watercolors? Collagraph with watercolors? Can you pull a good monoprint with
waterbased inks on wood? I plan to try all these things myself, but thought
I'd see if anybody had any tips/experiences to share.
Annie
media. I'm not sure if I can get more specific just yet. Where I'm coming
from is that up until a year ago, printmaking was barely on my radar at all,
and then I met Matt Brown. He's trouble!
I've been focusing on moku hanga because that's what Matt taught me, but
throughout the year I've also been researching and looking at all sorts of
printmaking and really enjoying the range and variety of what's possible. I
feel committed to working in a home studio, working without a press, working
with water-based inks, and I'd like to stick with wood as much as possible,
so that narrows my options quite a bit. But there's still an awful lot to
explore.
I guess the question I was trying to ask was, what other printmaking methods
would integrate smoothly with moku hanga? Can you do drypoint on plexi with
watercolors? Collagraph with watercolors? Can you pull a good monoprint with
waterbased inks on wood? I plan to try all these things myself, but thought
I'd see if anybody had any tips/experiences to share.
Annie
Message 3
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:06:41 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31283] Re: Mixing Media - Focusing the Question
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>I guess the question I was trying to ask was, what other printmaking methods
>would integrate smoothly with moku hanga? Can you do drypoint on plexi with
>watercolors? Collagraph with watercolors? Can you pull a good monoprint with
>waterbased inks on wood? I plan to try all these things myself, but thought
>I'd see if anybody had any tips/experiences to share.
>
Annie,
I think one issue is that the term "mixed-media" means a whole lot of
different things to different people. These days, the term
"multi-media" has pretty much morphed to mean using different
artist's materials, like oil paints, acrylics, inks, water-based, oil
based, etc.
Whereas "mixed-media" has come to mean a piece of work where you add
other elements to the basic piece, such as papers in a collage,
pieces of metal adhered to the work, fibers, etc.
Having said that, I personally have done monoprints using wood that
had been painted with acrylics first, to give it a slicker surface.
Otherwise, waterbased inks will soak into the surface fairly rapidly.
I got some interesting effects by doing this. I've also used
waterbased everything on plexiglass....
Bobbi C.
http://www.bobbichukran.com
>would integrate smoothly with moku hanga? Can you do drypoint on plexi with
>watercolors? Collagraph with watercolors? Can you pull a good monoprint with
>waterbased inks on wood? I plan to try all these things myself, but thought
>I'd see if anybody had any tips/experiences to share.
>
Annie,
I think one issue is that the term "mixed-media" means a whole lot of
different things to different people. These days, the term
"multi-media" has pretty much morphed to mean using different
artist's materials, like oil paints, acrylics, inks, water-based, oil
based, etc.
Whereas "mixed-media" has come to mean a piece of work where you add
other elements to the basic piece, such as papers in a collage,
pieces of metal adhered to the work, fibers, etc.
Having said that, I personally have done monoprints using wood that
had been painted with acrylics first, to give it a slicker surface.
Otherwise, waterbased inks will soak into the surface fairly rapidly.
I got some interesting effects by doing this. I've also used
waterbased everything on plexiglass....
Bobbi C.
http://www.bobbichukran.com
Message 4
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:46:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 31284] Mixing Media, waterbased inks
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Annie,
Sounds like you are really talking about using different plates, not different inks.
If you use other substrates for plates you will have the problem of things not lining up, and the registration will make you crazy.
I have done all of it as I am a real process junkie. If you work so that the imagery you are adding to the woodblock design does not need to register exactly, it will be less stress. I learned from Richard Steiner that you can use a piece of textured plastic glued to almost anything, (I used a piece of wood the same size as my block) and you can print it just like moku hangs, with waterbased ink. It gives an all over texture to the piece. I used it in exchange 26 and 28, it made little random dots all over the work.
I made a registration board with two strips of wood glued to a backing in a backwards L shape and rather than cut the kento into the wood, I glued on matboard strips with double stick tape where I would want the kento and covered them with clear tape to keep them from being damaged by the damp paper. This way I can move the mat board kento if I need a different paper size. The printing blocks fit into the L perfectly and it worked very well. You do need to pay attention or you can find things move on you a bit...you cannot get to zoned in printing. I too learned this registration thing from Matt Brown, over the internet, as we are a continent apart. I really love his work and have a couple of his prints. He sent me a small registration block and I immediately could see it would work for me with just a tiny modification.
If you use any type if collograph plate, cardboard or whatever, you will need to be sure you varnish it really well with real varnish. Otherwise the waterbased ink will just wreck it in no time. Or you can cover the cardboard plate with tin foil and fold it around the back. This sounds crazy but it works. Speeball ink or akua kolor ink will work on tin foil, regular pigment in water will bead up, of course, as there is no binder in it. If you use a lot of paste it might work, I have not tried that yet. Use the heavy duty foil, the thin stuff is easy to tear.
I have done a lot ot prints using masking tape as the image, building up small pieces of it. Again, waterbased inks will lift the tape. So you need to varnish it. I have used mat medium, but find it too will breakdown under printing with waterbased inks.
Plexi will work if you sand it really well and use some gum in your ink. Just a little gum arabic makes a lot of difference. If you use speedball ink or akua kolor you will not need the gum on a sanded plate. I have drawn my image on the back of a plastic plate and selectively placed the watercolor on the front following the designi I can see through the plate, then printed it. Not perfect registration but it can work if you are loose in your design.
So there is what I know about printing with water, using other plates.
Best to you,
Barbara
Sounds like you are really talking about using different plates, not different inks.
If you use other substrates for plates you will have the problem of things not lining up, and the registration will make you crazy.
I have done all of it as I am a real process junkie. If you work so that the imagery you are adding to the woodblock design does not need to register exactly, it will be less stress. I learned from Richard Steiner that you can use a piece of textured plastic glued to almost anything, (I used a piece of wood the same size as my block) and you can print it just like moku hangs, with waterbased ink. It gives an all over texture to the piece. I used it in exchange 26 and 28, it made little random dots all over the work.
I made a registration board with two strips of wood glued to a backing in a backwards L shape and rather than cut the kento into the wood, I glued on matboard strips with double stick tape where I would want the kento and covered them with clear tape to keep them from being damaged by the damp paper. This way I can move the mat board kento if I need a different paper size. The printing blocks fit into the L perfectly and it worked very well. You do need to pay attention or you can find things move on you a bit...you cannot get to zoned in printing. I too learned this registration thing from Matt Brown, over the internet, as we are a continent apart. I really love his work and have a couple of his prints. He sent me a small registration block and I immediately could see it would work for me with just a tiny modification.
If you use any type if collograph plate, cardboard or whatever, you will need to be sure you varnish it really well with real varnish. Otherwise the waterbased ink will just wreck it in no time. Or you can cover the cardboard plate with tin foil and fold it around the back. This sounds crazy but it works. Speeball ink or akua kolor ink will work on tin foil, regular pigment in water will bead up, of course, as there is no binder in it. If you use a lot of paste it might work, I have not tried that yet. Use the heavy duty foil, the thin stuff is easy to tear.
I have done a lot ot prints using masking tape as the image, building up small pieces of it. Again, waterbased inks will lift the tape. So you need to varnish it. I have used mat medium, but find it too will breakdown under printing with waterbased inks.
Plexi will work if you sand it really well and use some gum in your ink. Just a little gum arabic makes a lot of difference. If you use speedball ink or akua kolor you will not need the gum on a sanded plate. I have drawn my image on the back of a plastic plate and selectively placed the watercolor on the front following the designi I can see through the plate, then printed it. Not perfect registration but it can work if you are loose in your design.
So there is what I know about printing with water, using other plates.
Best to you,
Barbara
Message 5
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:47:56 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31285] Re: Mixing Media, waterbased inks
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>Plexi will work if you sand it really well and use some gum in your
>ink. Just a little gum arabic makes a lot of difference.
>
Barbara,
You have just answered a question I've had for years! Back in high
school, we made some lino prints using tempera paints (ugh) and the
teacher always added *something* to the paints to make them more
"sticky".....I never could remember what it was, and was thinking it
was glycerin. But now I remember that it was gum arabic!
Now I wonder if adding the gum to the acrylic paints I'm using will
make them more "sticky" like ink?
Hmmm......
Bobbi C.
>ink. Just a little gum arabic makes a lot of difference.
>
Barbara,
You have just answered a question I've had for years! Back in high
school, we made some lino prints using tempera paints (ugh) and the
teacher always added *something* to the paints to make them more
"sticky".....I never could remember what it was, and was thinking it
was glycerin. But now I remember that it was gum arabic!
Now I wonder if adding the gum to the acrylic paints I'm using will
make them more "sticky" like ink?
Hmmm......
Bobbi C.
Message 6
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:47:46 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31286] Summit Exhibition
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All you folks who are sending work for the Summit Exhibition at North
Bank Gallery:
Just a little heads up in case you weren't aware (or I forgot to
mention it) the gallery will be taking a 50% commission, so price
accordingly. If you want to change the prices you have give me, please
let me know at Barebonesart@comcast.net. I will be going 90 mph with
my kids visiting and may not get to read the Digest everyday, so don't
send any questions or info, there - I might miss it!
Also, Nancy asked for my phone # for the shipping label: in case you
need it it is 360/574-3730.
Cheers!
Sharri
Bank Gallery:
Just a little heads up in case you weren't aware (or I forgot to
mention it) the gallery will be taking a 50% commission, so price
accordingly. If you want to change the prices you have give me, please
let me know at Barebonesart@comcast.net. I will be going 90 mph with
my kids visiting and may not get to read the Digest everyday, so don't
send any questions or info, there - I might miss it!
Also, Nancy asked for my phone # for the shipping label: in case you
need it it is 360/574-3730.
Cheers!
Sharri
Message 7
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 31287] Baren members websites
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Just a reminder that if you have a website you can be listed with the other Baren members at
http://barenforum.org/members_web_sites.html --email me dmadis@sbcglobal.net
and if you would like a picture of yourself (or a silhouette) and a display of your woodblock prints on the Baren site visit
http://barenforum.org/who_a.html
and follow the instructions.
Also if your website address changes please notify me so it can be updated.
If the following still have active sites please send me an update as the present links are not working:
Sirima Sataman
Georga Garside
Yngvar Stroem Hansen
Darrell
http://barenforum.org/members_web_sites.html --email me dmadis@sbcglobal.net
and if you would like a picture of yourself (or a silhouette) and a display of your woodblock prints on the Baren site visit
http://barenforum.org/who_a.html
and follow the instructions.
Also if your website address changes please notify me so it can be updated.
If the following still have active sites please send me an update as the present links are not working:
Sirima Sataman
Georga Garside
Yngvar Stroem Hansen
Darrell
Message 8
From: Jan Telfer
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:52:32 +0800
Subject: [Baren 31288] Re: Alphabet ideas
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Thank you Barbara... this site is great. Have taken a note to put it
in our calligraphy newsletter so look passed the hundred odd pages
already there for some West Aussie calligraphers in the next month or
two!!
* Why make it "a specific English alphabet letter" per page?
* Why not leave it open to people's imaginations ?
* Even these calligraphic marks that appeared on the hundreds of pages
on the website Barbara posted are very expressive and they don't have
to mean anything especially carving a specific letter backwards is hard
for any person .....
* What about a long thin horizontal page size.... doesn't need to be
bound.
* I like the idea of doing a quote of some sort..... personal choice
.... like a haiku or something?
Just few more thoughts!
Jan
Graffiti assignment expert!!
in our calligraphy newsletter so look passed the hundred odd pages
already there for some West Aussie calligraphers in the next month or
two!!
* Why make it "a specific English alphabet letter" per page?
* Why not leave it open to people's imaginations ?
* Even these calligraphic marks that appeared on the hundreds of pages
on the website Barbara posted are very expressive and they don't have
to mean anything especially carving a specific letter backwards is hard
for any person .....
* What about a long thin horizontal page size.... doesn't need to be
bound.
* I like the idea of doing a quote of some sort..... personal choice
.... like a haiku or something?
Just few more thoughts!
Jan
Graffiti assignment expert!!
Message 9
From: Blog Manager
Date: 13 Jul 2006 03:55:08 -0000
Subject: [Baren 31289] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.
The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (22 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)
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Site Name: m.Lee Fine Art
Author: m.Lee
Item: Flexcut Carving Tools
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2006/07/flexcut-carving-tools.html
*****************
Site Name: pressing-issues
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Thinking in Pastels
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2006/07/thinking-in-pastels.html
*****************
[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
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For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
http://barenforum.org/blog
http://woodblock.com
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://studiodiary.blogspot.com
http://larimerart.blogspot.com
http://artflights.blogspot.com
http://perfect-press.blogspot.com
http://printmakersmaterials.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://room535.blogspot.com
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://snowgum.blogspot.com
http://onthisblock.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
http://PLawing-Printmaker.blogspot.com
http://readdevine.blogspot.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://mokuhankan.com
http://belindadelpesco.blogspot.com
http://vizart.blogspot.com
The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (22 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)
*****************
Site Name: m.Lee Fine Art
Author: m.Lee
Item: Flexcut Carving Tools
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2006/07/flexcut-carving-tools.html
*****************
Site Name: pressing-issues
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Thinking in Pastels
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2006/07/thinking-in-pastels.html
*****************
[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
http://barenforum.org/contact_baren.php
For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
http://barenforum.org/blog
http://woodblock.com
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://studiodiary.blogspot.com
http://larimerart.blogspot.com
http://artflights.blogspot.com
http://perfect-press.blogspot.com
http://printmakersmaterials.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://room535.blogspot.com
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://snowgum.blogspot.com
http://onthisblock.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
http://PLawing-Printmaker.blogspot.com
http://readdevine.blogspot.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://mokuhankan.com
http://belindadelpesco.blogspot.com
http://vizart.blogspot.com
Message 10
From: Jan Telfer
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:14:45 +0800
Subject: [Baren 31290] Re: Mixed media
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Annie,
I am always using my prints mixed with other media both torn up like
Mellissa's or recycling them in my Scrapbooking pages which I write all
over, paste things on and paint over........ if you don't want to use
up your good ones, keep the ones that don't make the edition. It's
good therapeutic fun.
Jan Telfer
Occupational Therapist
Art Therapist
Calligrapher
Printmaker
ATC extraordinaire
Scrapbooker
Etc....
I am always using my prints mixed with other media both torn up like
Mellissa's or recycling them in my Scrapbooking pages which I write all
over, paste things on and paint over........ if you don't want to use
up your good ones, keep the ones that don't make the edition. It's
good therapeutic fun.
Jan Telfer
Occupational Therapist
Art Therapist
Calligrapher
Printmaker
ATC extraordinaire
Scrapbooker
Etc....