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Message 5
From: "Amanda Miller"
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:01:34 -0400
Subject: [Baren 35977] Re: Difficulty with new photocopy transfers
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Jenn, I was looking for oil of wintergreen...is it the same as "wintergreen
essential oil?"
Thanks!
Amanda

Jenn Schmitt wrote:

> What I've learned recently, is to do transfers with oil of wintergreen.
> You take a photocopy (the toner is what transfers so print outs don't work)
> and coat the back of the image using a Q-tip, then place it face down on the
> block and run it through the press with extra newsprint to absorb the oil
> and protect the blankets. Oil of wintergreen isn't toxic per se, but can be
> an irritant to skin. Use in a ventilated area. (Like my kitchen with an open
> window.)
>
> The following link is to a photo of a new block with an image transfered
> using the above method.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/azuregrackle/2574706609/
>
> Jenn
>

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Message 1
From: Peter Kocak
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:57:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 35978] Re: solarplate...not woodblock so skip this if you like
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ok, Barbara, thank you much, so it -how-if I will expose more some 3min-will be drawing on film with grease pencil for lithography more hared so lighter in intaglio? or less minuts more black? havent any screen pitty must be some on film like in offset printhouse for photo exponed on metal for printing ?
raster screen with dots?for intaglio? could I try to expose drawing in pencil without screen? ;-)) so dont know sorry Iam out maybe..;-)

Peter Kocák
www.pulib.sk/kocak
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www.youtube.com/videos/pietrocelli123

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Message 2
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:11:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 35979] Re: Difficulty with new photocopy transfers
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Just as with other solvents, oil of wintergreen works with some toners but not with all. Check on line and read two or three MSDS sheets ... repeated skin exposures cause kidney damage in rabbits ... there simply has not been much testing done on humans. It is a respiratory irritant as well. So just as with other solvents, treat it with respect ... use lots of ventilation and avoid skin contact.
Cheers ..... Charles

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Message 3
From: guadalupe victorica reyes
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:30:34 +0000
Subject: [Baren 35980] shellac on wood
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Hello Jenn:
I saw the image it is very nice. What are the advantages of coating the wood with shellac? Than you, Guadalupe
Last week I did a wood cut in an imported plywood from the US but did not shellac it . Should I do something now to protected it? Thank you, Guadalupe

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Message 4
From: "Clive.ca"
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:42:13 -0400
Subject: [Baren 35981] Re: Difficulty with new photocopy transfers
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Of all the things I've learned on the Baren forum I think the most
helpful (and healthy) is that D'Limogene, from orange peel, does as
good as or better than acetone to move toner from a print to a
block. It's found in many concentrated orange based cleaners. My
only regret is losing so many brain cells to acetone before I learned
about D'Limogene.

The wintergreen sounds good as well. It's one of those smells that
takes me back to my childhood but I think that the acetone has erased
what ever visual memories wintergreen's smell should be evoking:-)

Clive

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Message 5
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:06:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 35982] Re: Difficulty with new photocopy transfers
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Hello Clive,
 
I am a strong advocate for d-limonene. But, alas, it does not work on all toners. My new(ish) Lexmark laser printer uses a toner that d-limonene does not touch.  However, acetone does the transfer just fine. So acetone works in some cases where d-limonene does not.
D-limonene products are almost always sold in plastic bottles ... so there are plastics that d-limonene does not melt. Acetone is usually sold in metal containers, at least around here. My susupicion is that acetone melts most of the plastics used in container manufacture. Laser toners are just fine particles of plastic combined with some pigments.
 
According to the science I have read, acetone itself is not a neurotoxin. Go online and check a number of MSDS sheets for acetone. If you lost brain cells using acetone, it would have to be because of lack of oxygen ... that is essentially what happens in many cases of glue-sniffing. Acetone is very volatile ... if you have too high a concentration in the air, you may feel woozy from lack of oxygen.
 
Do not confuse acetone with lacquer thinner. Lacquer thinner is generally a mixture of a lot of stuff, most of it quite toxic. Seems every manufacturer of lacquer thinner has a slightly different mixture. Lacquer thinners may contain acetone, but they also generally contain benzene and other very noxious chemicals, many of which are neurotoxins. You may well lose brain cells from using lacquer thinner. I would definitely steer clear of lacquer thinner.
 
Remember that laser toners are just minute plastic particles that carry pigments. The toner is deposited on the paper electrostatically. Then the fuser roller melts the plastic in place. So, sufficient heat should theoretically always work. But as I indicated in a previous post, most modern irons do not usually get hot enough. Older irons work better, as do heat guns made for stripping paint.
Cheers ..... Charles

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