Today's postings

  1. [Baren 36609] RE: Dremels and nomenclature ("Mike Lyon")
  2. [Baren 36610] Re: keeping paper damp question (Annie Bissett)
  3. [Baren 36611] Re: Posting (Anna Huskey)
  4. [Baren 36612] Resubscribing for Digest Version (Gayle Wohlken)
  5. [Baren 36613] Re: Dremels and nomenclature (Ragtaghorde #
  6. [Baren 36614] Re: keeping paper damp question (Julio.Rodriguez #
  7. [Baren 36615] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4484 (Aug 14, 2008) (Lynn Starun)
  8. [Baren 36616] Re: keeping paper damp question (Barbara Mason)
  9. [Baren 36617] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
  10. [Baren 36618] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4484 (Aug 14, 2008) ("Mike Lyon")
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Message 1
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:00:31 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36609] RE: Dremels and nomenclature
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What do you call a lino-cut printed using a baren and watercolors???

Moku means wood, hanga means block print, so how about

* lino-hanga?
* (politically incorrect): ree-no-ree-um han-ga?
* hanga

Or how about English:

* block print
* linocut
* relief printed water borne colors from X linoleum blocks onto N
paper, edition of Y

OH! Me soooooo f-f-f-unny (in my own mind, anyway)!

Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO

Jennifer wrote:
>...Does this name (Moku Hanga) only describe the
>technique when used with cherry? or does plywood, other woods, lino etc.
>still get the same label. In other words is it the process, or the
>materials, or the hand printing with water colours? When I last exhibited,
>some of my images ended up with rather wordy descriptions, in the interests
>of not misleading people. In fact I have not used the term moku hanga in
>case it is not! It would be good to have some shortcuts, or better
>definitions. Any takers?
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Message 2
From: Annie Bissett
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:04:26 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36610] Re: keeping paper damp question
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Linda asked about keeping paper damp when the printing will take a
while or when there's an interruption. One thing you can do is put
the paper in the freezer. When it thaws back out it's pretty much the
same degree of dampness as when it went into the freezer. Another
thing I often do is let the paper dry and then re-wet it when I'm
ready to print again. You didn't say what kind of inks you use, but
if you're doing moku hanga and you wet the paper by using a water
brush on the unprinted side, wetting every second or third sheet and
stacking the sheets, re-wetting works just fine. I use Guerra pigment
dispersions and have never had a problem with the ink bleeding or
being affected in any way by re-wetting.

Annie B in Massachusetts
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Message 3
From: Anna Huskey
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:31:29 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36611] Re: Posting
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How do we unsubscribe from the regular version first?? I tried on the address you
just gave when changing to digest version and it would not let me unsubscribe to the regular.

Thank You
Anna Huskey
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Message 4
From: Gayle Wohlken
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:06:34 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36612] Resubscribing for Digest Version
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I apologize, Bareners, I'm breaking Baren rules by posting twice in a
day, but this may be important.

Anna said she was having trouble unsubscribing from the regular
version in order to receive the digest version.

Step 1: When you go to that window to unsubscribe, just do one thing.
Unsubscribe. Just click the button to "unsubscribe from the 'regular'
version". Then go to the bottom and click the button that says, "send
input to the list server". A window should pop up saying in essence,
"so long, it's been good to know ya" (or some such thing).

Step 2: Now go back to the subscribing window (a fresh window with
all new choices) and select "Subscribe to the Digest Version". Then
pick the style you want, and hit the bottom button again. This time
you'll get a welcoming message. That's all there is to it. You'll
begin receiving digests. It's a two step process. I hope this is
clear. If not, let me know.

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Message 5
From: Ragtaghorde #
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:40:37 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36613] Re: Dremels and nomenclature
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I mostly print from Safety-Kut. Unless I am talking to another printmaker
who is intersted in all the nerdy details I just refer to my prints as
"linocuts". Most people above the age/generation at which Art Instruction in schools
was declared superfluos are at least somewhat familiar with the process...


Annie Fitt
& the Ragtag Horde ~ Whippets of Mass Destruction!
Wake, Virginia
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Message 6
From: Julio.Rodriguez #
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:37:28 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36614] Re: keeping paper damp question
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Normally I too use the refrigerator to keep the paper moist. If it's going
to be a few hours or a day or two the non-freezer side will do as long as
the paper is nicely wrapped in plastic. If it's going to be more than a
few days freezing is the method some printmakers recommend. Regardless, it
can be hard to control paper moisture as season, weather, studio location,
etc..... all play a major role in upsetting the moisture level in your
paper. One method that helps me to control paper moisture while printing
is to have a moist towel (paper towel also works) close at hand to place
over the next sheet of paper to be I lift a sheet to be
printed I place the moist towel over the next sheet in the stack. I have
a second towel that use to place over the sheets in the already-printed

Here is an excellent baren article by Matt Brown explaining the method..
(I use a fine spray bottle instead of a hake brush);

Just yesterday I came back from a two week vacation to find a stack of
moist paper in the refrigerator. Yikes, I forgot to freeze it before I
left town !
This paper is to be used for Baren Exchange #38. Although the paper had
been sitting in the non-freezer side for over 15 days the paper was still
moist and ready to print....the only exception was the top sheet that was
discarded as it had the start of some pinkish mold spores ;-(

Thus besides the problem of keeping the paper moist for a long period of
time the other issue that comes up when printing is delayed is Mold. Here
is a barenforum link that has some suggestions on preventing
will see suggestions from many bareners:

good luck.....Julio
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Message 7
From: Lynn Starun
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:21:24 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36615] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4484 (Aug 14, 2008)
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Hi All,
I love equipment so the discussion of power tools got my attention. Sometimes I find that the oldfashioned way is best after all but it's so seductive to believe there's a better, easier way if you just buy some piece of equipment. I don't know if the tool in the you tube video I'm linking to has anything to do with what Mike was talking about but it looks like fun to use whatever this tool is. Pantograph? router??

I've had hand problems. The tendonitis/carpal tunnel I could deal with but the trigger thumbs scared me and I went to a doctor who wanted to do surgery. I read up and managed to recover with stretching and hot and cold treatments and being careful not to overdo things. I bought a pair of gel type bicycle gloves so that the tool doesn't press too hard on my palm and I got those rubber fingers they sell in office supply stores to improve my grip. I like the idea of wrapping the tool handles! The other "trick" I use is to try to remember to stop often and let my hands recover and I stretch my fingers and massage sore tendons in my forearm. So far, knock on wood, I'm doing much better.

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Message 8
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:15:26 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36616] Re: keeping paper damp question
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You can use some kind of mold inhibitor in the water to dampen the paper and if all else fails put the whole thing in the freezer when you need to delay for a day or so. You can also dry everything out and then redampen when you are ready to print again. Look to book conservators to find what kind of mold inhibitor is safe for paper.
My best
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Message 9
From: Blog Manager
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:56:02 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36617] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.

The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (51 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)


Site Name: mLee Fine Art

Author: Marissa L. Swinghammer
Item: Mixing Things IUp


Site Name: Kris Wiltse's Journal Blog

Author: Kris Wiltse
Item: Methow Paintings


[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:

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Message 10
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:53:01 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36618] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4484 (Aug 14, 2008)
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Well, if you like old fashioned stuff, the pantograph shown in the video is
an old fashioned gizmo (invented in 1603) -- this sort of scissors rig is
all mechanical plus the electric motor -- it's moved by hand and the tool
follows the path of a stylus which you can't see in the movie -- here's a
page with a photo of the entire gizmo -- maybe you had a toy like this when
you were a kid? I did! It'll enlarge and reduce, too! Quite cool:

The machine _I_ use is more like the Etch-A-Sketch toy which has one knob to
control the X movement of a stylus and a second knob to control the Y
movement -- you can hold the knobs, one in each hand, and draw circles and
any other shape if you're coordinated enough!

My machine is very much like a giant Etch-A-Sketch except that the 'knobs'
are turned by stepper motors under computer control -- I figure out all the
movements in advance and then the machine carries out the movement -- it has
NO idea what it's doing, of course! Just another tool! I can attach and
move a router, a drypoint needle, a paint brush, a pen, a pencil, an
airbrush, you name it! Here's a movie which (very briefly) shows a pen and
ink drawing underway on my machine:


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO