Today's postings

  1. [Baren 36876] oOmemade starch (Lee Churchill)
  2. [Baren 36877] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4527 (Sep 15, 2008) (Marilynn Smith)
  3. [Baren 36878] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4527 (Sep 15, 2008) (Lynn Starun)
  4. [Baren 36879] Re: exchange #39 ("claudiacoonen")
  5. [Baren 36880] Re: exchange #39 (Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com)
  6. [Baren 36881] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4527 (Sep 15, 2008) ("Ellen Shipley")
  7. [Baren 36882] Re: exchange #39 ("Ellen Shipley")
  8. [Baren 36883] Re: exchange #39 (Shawn + Elizabeth Newton)
  9. [Baren 36884] Re: exchange #39 ("Maria Arango")
  10. [Baren 36885] Re: exchange #39 ( slinders # comcast.net)
  11. [Baren 36886] Re: exchange #39 (eli griggs)
  12. [Baren 36887] Re: exchange #39 (Barbara Mason)
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Message 1
From: Lee Churchill
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:35:36 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36876] Homemade starch
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Or you can buy starch powder from a health food store (wheat or rice) and save yourself the incredible hassle!
For super purified starch you can buy Jin shofu (zin shofu, gin shofu...pick your spelling) Carr McLean and Talas both have it.
All starch pastes are easily prepared by microwaving carefully for a couple of minutes... there is some small debate among conservators whether the microwaved technique is as adhesive as using a double boiler but no one I know has been able to prove the amount it is less 'sticky'.

Lee

The creative act is not performed by the artist alone; the spectator brings the work in contact with the external world by deciphering and interpreting its inner qualifications and thus adds his contribution to the creative act. (Marcel Duchamp)

>1. [Baren 36854] home-made whole wheat starch (eli griggs)
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Message 2
From: Marilynn Smith
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:39:23 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36877] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4527 (Sep 15, 2008)
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Considering the long narrow format for this next exchange I would
suggest "A personal view" is more suitable. One could do a self
portrait under this theme as well as a peek at where one lives,
including thing like pets, landscapes and even architecture of the
places near ones home or you could even do your own house or portions
of it. This theme is broad enough to bring in both ideas. As for
doing an all Moku Hanga exchange I do believe we did that once
before. I do not object however, especially since my press is hard to
use with the studio construction.

YEAH, we are getting our wonderous Indian summer.
Marilynn
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Message 3
From: Lynn Starun
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:47:05 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36878] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4527 (Sep 15, 2008)
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Hi Group,
I would like to vote for self-portrait as well. I'm fine with Moku Hanga but don't have strong opinion about whether it shoule be required.
Lynn
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Message 4
From: "claudiacoonen"
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:15:42 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36879] Re: exchange #39
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I like the idea of Trees
they are all over the planet in such diversity, many all tall ( thus the long and skinny) they provide us with oxygen. We have a multualistic relationship. More than this, to me, they are like the humans of the plant world, generally long living , each has it unique characteristics, each speaks of the region they are in ( I do realize some deserts and plains are a tad short on trees..)
But many of the suggestions thus far, trees will fit into.
I just thought since we are from all over it would be nice to have a whole exchange with just trees.

claudia g. coonen
www.surface-designs.com
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Message 5
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:38:31 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36880] Re: exchange #39
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I second Claudia's idea about trees but I also like self-portrait as a
theme........how about mixing those up ?

If YOU were a tree...what kind of a tree would you be ? How would you
represent yourself graphically ?

Would you be strong as an oak ? Would you be regal like the Royal Palm or

blessed with longevity like California's giant Sequoia's ?


Julio (Skokie, Illinois)

I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth's sweet flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in Summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.
~Joyce Kilmer, "Trees," 1914


Julio
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Message 6
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:47:20 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36881] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4527 (Sep 15, 2008)
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I'm up for a self-portrait, but shakey on the moku-hanga. Still I could
give it a try. 8-]

Ellen

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Ellen Shipley
Trompt As Writ

>~----- Hi Group,
> I would like to vote for self-portrait as well. I'm fine with Moku Hanga
> but don't have strong opinion about whether it shoule be required.
> Lynn
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Message 7
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:48:12 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36882] Re: exchange #39
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Ooh! I like that!!

Ellen

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Ellen Shipley
Trompt As Writ
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Message 8
From: Shawn + Elizabeth Newton
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:03:43 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36883] Re: exchange #39
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this is one i could do. my face in the bark of a tree. yeah!

shawn
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Message 9
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:21:14 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36884] Re: exchange #39
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That definitely gets my vote too!

I think I might be a Creosote bush, short and hardy, made for the desert;
loves to give a wide tenuous shade to all the critters that pass by but it
tends to be toxic (although not poisonous) if bitten; sends roots deep into
the soil or spreads them out wide, whatever it takes to survive; not
especially beautiful but of a unique olive color with gray “striped”
branches and has very small, not exactly ostentatious flowers year around
but especially in the spring.

Of course some people think of me as a Cat-claw Acacia, with all the
qualities of the Creosote but with cat-like spiny "claws" all over its
branches that prevent anyone from getting too close ;-)

Maria

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Message 10
From: slinders # comcast.net
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:33:56 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36885] Re: exchange #39
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I've always enjoyed participating in Baren's exchanges!

I'm concerned about the change that indicates we will now have a
fourth of our exchanges designated 'all hanga' exchanges. That
seems a dramatic shift!

Often there are themes or sizes that lend themselves to
participation, and it will be sad to be eliminated from so many
of them because of this new ruling.

I enjoy the 'mix of techniques' that come in an exchange! Will
the hanga examples most frequently be exchanged with the hanga
folk?

I'm wondering if I'm alone in this concern.

Best wishes,
Sharen
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Message 11
From: eli griggs
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:33:33 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36886] Re: exchange #39
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It might not be an issue if we have oily only
exchanges as well.

So, how many oil based exchanges only exchanges have
we had so far?

Cheers
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Message 12
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:02:09 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36887] Re: exchange #39
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Sharen,
I started doing woodcuts so I could do the exchanges and never ever thought I would figure out how to do moku hanga. I know I am not very good, but I think I have learned a lot. I love the challenge of doing one, The exchanges are the only thing I do woodcut for as my real work is solarplate intaglio. So the hanga is just for me and for this group. I have had a lot of fun making a mess and now have a true appreciation of the medium. I think the two can mix pretty well, the carving is the same and if you print by hand the printing is the same...just different ink and paper.
I welcome an all hanga exchange once in a while as it forces me to actually print with the traditional ink and paper. It is difficult for those who do totally different work to learn this process, I admit that.
I feel that after almost 10 years with the baren I have finally figured out how to carve and I am still far from being skilled at it. But I sure know how and can teach it...I know how to print and can teach it also as most of those I teach are where I was 10 years ago. I have appreciated the opportunity to be a part of Baren, these exchanges have really enriched my life. I admit to using Akua Kolor sometimes so that is sort of a crossover, and think it counts as moku hanga. After all, doesn't it mean wood print as a literal translation???
Maybe we should just say waterbased ink...that would mean that those who were oily people would have to try less toxic materials. A good idea as far as the environment and our health is concerned.
My best to you
Barbara
PS, I vote for trees...or the personal view. That could surely be trees.


> Often there are themes or sizes that lend themselves to
> participation, and it will be sad to be eliminated from so
> many
> of them because of this new ruling.
>
> I enjoy the 'mix of techniques' that come in an
> exchange! Will
> the hanga examples most frequently be exchanged with the
> hanga
> folk?
>
> I'm wondering if I'm alone in this concern.