Today's postings

  1. [Baren 36942] Exchange Themes and Styles (Tom Kristensen)
  2. [Baren 36943] Re: tallies ("Nancy Osadchuk")
  3. [Baren 36944] Durer exhibition in NYC (cucamongie #
  4. [Baren 36945] Re: Exchange Themes and Styles (ArtSpotiB #
  5. [Baren 36946] Re: tallies (Graham Scholes)
  6. [Baren 36947] Re: Daniel Smith (tara wings)
  7. [Baren 36948] Thank you for your help! (tara wings)
  8. [Baren 36949] too much noise (Rosposfe #
  9. [Baren 36950] Re: Exchange changes ( slinders #
  10. [Baren 36951] RE: too much noise (Kristine Alder)
  11. [Baren 36952] hey looki a lil-jack ("Maria Arango")
  12. [Baren 36953] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
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Message 1
From: Tom Kristensen
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:44:34 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36942] Exchange Themes and Styles
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It seems like there are a lot of exchange suggestions floating around
and the process of gauging opinion is left to Maria who has to try
and make sense of all comments given in all posts. Any one post might
carry any number of votes for any number of concepts. With every new
suggestion there is a shift in the consensus, previously expressed
opinions may become out-dated. Like Mark I can't see myself doing a
self-portrait as a long skinny tree, but if exchange 39 is declared
an all water exchange I would feel somewhat obligated to sign up.
Given the option I would swing my vote to something less restrictive,
like trees.

I am in favour of Mike's proposal of cycling though themed and
unthemed exchanges, and having an annual oily and inky exchange, but
I wonder if it is wise to restrict the theme and the paper format and
the style of print in the one exchange. Long tall self portrait as a
tree in water based inks! It's pretty specific.

Having had a flurry of ideas about the kind of exchanges we would all
like to do, I would like to see all interested members vote on some
concrete suggestions. Firstly, do we adopt an exchange schedule that
restricts the style of print to water or oil. Secondly, after an
initial floating of ideas could we have a choice of three popular
themes to vote on.

Maria, I vote yes on both of my own suggestions!
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Message 2
From: "Nancy Osadchuk"
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:06:23 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36943] Re: tallies
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Gee! Last time we had a moku hanga exchange, there wasn't nearly all this
fuss!?! ;-)

Nancy O
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Message 3
From: cucamongie #
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:13:13 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36944] Durer exhibition in NYC
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hi all, just thought I'd let you know about a Durer exhibition in NYC which is only up a few more days (September 21).? lovely engravings and woodcuts.? It's at MOBIA (Museum of Biblical Art) on 61 St. and Broadway.?

what a pleasure to see his wonderful rhinoceros in person, and the detail he was able to achieve is simply amazing.

here's the website with details:

and they do have a catalog for sale thru their website in case you want to get it.? It's a softcover book, 136 pgs, around $22, and I believe it has all the work which is in the show.

best wishes
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Message 4
From: ArtSpotiB #
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:40:47 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36945] Re: Exchange Themes and Styles
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I like so many of the ideas for future exchanges. If I were the long term
exchange coordinator, I'd have a hopper to drop the slips of paper in... and pull
one out now and then when ideas were needed. What a rich group of creative
souls Bareners are. It's inspiring just to read the posts.

"Something for everyone" applied over time looks to be Maria's leadership
method. Maria, have you ever/do you plan to severely restricted the exchanges as
some seem to think? Perhaps I've missed you setting down perm. rules? I'm just
a newie so may have an erroneous impression. It seemed to me that you have a
certain flair for keeping projects broad and welcoming, with changes of themes
and styles as time and energy allow.

Perhaps the more vivacious contributors to the dialog regarding rules and
regulations (real or not) might want to volunteer to help with additional
exchanges so that everyone might be pleased with the results? Anyone else wanting
to help our star, Maria?

Step up and pitch in, so that your wonderful energy won't be wasted, friends.

Hooray for all the projects! For all the energy and generosity. And for
printmaking, which binds us together.

ArtSpot Out
Benny Alba in studio

"It is neither wealth nor splendor, but tranquility and
occupation, which give happiness."
--Thomas Jefferson

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Message 5
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:48:15 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36946] Re: tallies
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It was tongue in cheek Maria.....

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Message 6
From: tara wings
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:53:26 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36947] Re: Daniel Smith
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Thank you so much for the help!
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Message 7
From: tara wings
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:03:50 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36948] Thank you for your help!
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Thank you to everyone for your help! I was starting to send out personal thank you's, but i realized that they are getting sent to everyone, and so as not to clog up everyone's e-mail's i will just send one general thank you. The responses were so helpful!

tara wings

Time is the moving image of eternity.
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Message 8
From: Rosposfe #
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:37:55 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36949] too much noise
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I am still a rare poster to the forum but will add my contribution.
Lighten up. With so many real conflicts and important issues in the world both
near and far, a Moku-Hanga only exchange ranks very low as a possible source
of friction or conflict. The exchanges are voluntary. If you don't like a
wrong-paper side only exchange, or the white paper only exchange, or the
invisible ink exchange.....skip it and vote on the next one. Or go to your
studio/living room/garage and do a print with an exchange of 1.
I was hoping to jump in and do my first exchange this go around. I
started doing M-H, water-based prints because it's portable, non-toxic (mostly),
challenging (you should see my last disaster), and uses great materials (wood,
paper, rice, ground pigments, neat little knives and gouges). If the theme
doesn't inspire me or a technique is requested that I don't do and that I am
not interested enough to try...I'll skip it.
This is a postiive place where artists share ideas, techniques, tips,
their work both successful and not. If you want conflict try moving back in
with your parents.
P.S. I vote self portrait or trees.
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Message 9
From: slinders #
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:47:19 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36950] Re: Exchange changes
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Dear Friends,

I didn't bring this as a discussion about 'learning something
new' or not! It is difficult to talk about things on the
internet when folks haven't read carefully.

When I wrote to the list I wanted to discuss the very
extraordinary change in direction of the exchanges that were
announced by Maria on 9/13/08 4:53 PM!

Devoting a quarter of the exchanges to moku hanga (or anything
else) is a big difference from our norm! I'd wondered if I was
the only one who felt that this was a big swerve. No one was
addressing that BIG change in Baren's exchange program.

I've printed hanga! --Don't like it, but I've done it! I'm
interested in all kinds of printing and printmaking, including
intaglio and letterpress.

But none of this speaks to the point of now devoting a quarter
of our exchanges to a single form of printmaking! That was what
I'd hoped people would talk about! Not 'mine is better than

I think "our exchanges" is better than the exchanges being
"ours" and "theirs".

Personally I'd like the exchanges to stay close to the way that
they've been! It's a treat to see the many ways our people
'make their music'!

Our exchanges provide us with the chance to try a new technique
because we've been able to see and touch and learn from someone
else's print method.

'Saint' Maria is doing a wonderful job for us as exchange leader
and in the other ways she's helped to build Barenforum over the
years. I admire her and appreciate the way she puts a lot of
thought and creativity (and work!)into ways to make our group
better and stronger. I was startled by this big sudden change,
that's all, and wondered if others shared that feeling.

Please let's play nice and talk about these important things
with politeness and kindness, and with an awareness that the
technology that has introduced us to one another as a group also
takes away the smiles and the other indicators that might help
us to understand one another's meanings. We need to speak
carefully and read carefully, and in a spirit of kindness.

Thanks to all who have brought their thoughts to this topic in a
spirit of coming together and conversing rather than a derisive
or divisive one!

In good spirit, and with best wishes,
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Message 10
From: Kristine Alder
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:17:17 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36951] RE: too much noise
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Thank you, Andrew! I agree...lighten up!!! Play nice, and remember we are here to help each other. Ideas are tossed out. Not everyone is going to think that every idea is the be-all-end-all solution to everything. Part of the uniqueness of our group is that we are all different and we are all creative people with different approaches to our creativity. As such we are bound to have creative differences. Sometimes folks, we just have to agree to disagree and move on. I think it's time to stop taking ourselves so seriously and do just that...move on.


Kristine Alder
St. George, UT
Art Educator/Printmaker/Book Artist/Graphic Design


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Message 11
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:53:27 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36952] hey looki a lil-jack
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Since Iím short and squatty, I built a short and squatty hydraulic press.
Itís cool! And perfect for cork prints, my latest insanity.


†††††† Maria Arango
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Message 12
From: Blog Manager
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:55:43 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36953] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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