Today's postings
- [Baren 37330] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V45 #4581 (Oct 21, 2008) (Marilynn Smith)
- [Baren 37331] floating Kento (Cucamongie # aol.com)
- [Baren 37332] Exchanges Update! ("Maria Diener \(aka Arango\)")
- [Baren 37333] the floating kento (Raymond Hudson)
- [Baren 37334] Re: floating kento (Sharri LaPierre)
- [Baren 37335] Re: the floating kento (Graham Scholes)
- [Baren 37336] off-topic, Pet Art Auction in LA area (cucamongie # aol.com)
- [Baren 37337] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
Message 1
From: Marilynn Smith
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:04:49 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37330] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V45 #4581 (Oct 21, 2008)
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I have been using an L shaped jig exactly the way Barbara does and it
absolutely makes adjustments much easier. I did not think this was
traditional carved kentos and that was a requirement for this moku
hanga exchange. It states kento marks in the list of requirements,
unless I missed something. I found my personal human error in cutting
kentos to be too far off for them to work well. Also, many of my
blocks are from the scrap box at the Myrtle wood factory. If I use an
L shaped registration board I can adjust registration for blocks of
different sizes, thus making better use of my wood. I have used up to
4 blocks each one a different size and dropped them onto the same
piece of paper for a print. Every time one carves a kento one looses
inches of wood, using an L shaped jig is more cost effective. I
learned this system when I took print making in college, so it is far
from new. We used it with reduction printing, which also seems
impossible to some.
Many of us have different techniques for registration and also for
carving. I think one should use what works best for them. Now that I
have the freedom to carve my tree my way I will use reduction
printing, a jig and have fun! I have found traditional moku hanga
limits my possibilities and thus my creativity.
Marilynn
absolutely makes adjustments much easier. I did not think this was
traditional carved kentos and that was a requirement for this moku
hanga exchange. It states kento marks in the list of requirements,
unless I missed something. I found my personal human error in cutting
kentos to be too far off for them to work well. Also, many of my
blocks are from the scrap box at the Myrtle wood factory. If I use an
L shaped registration board I can adjust registration for blocks of
different sizes, thus making better use of my wood. I have used up to
4 blocks each one a different size and dropped them onto the same
piece of paper for a print. Every time one carves a kento one looses
inches of wood, using an L shaped jig is more cost effective. I
learned this system when I took print making in college, so it is far
from new. We used it with reduction printing, which also seems
impossible to some.
Many of us have different techniques for registration and also for
carving. I think one should use what works best for them. Now that I
have the freedom to carve my tree my way I will use reduction
printing, a jig and have fun! I have found traditional moku hanga
limits my possibilities and thus my creativity.
Marilynn
Message 2
From: Cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:14:51 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37331] floating Kento
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Hi all -- Dave, thanks for providing the picture and animation, sometimes
words just don't "cut it". :)
Anyway, the only difference with my floating kento is that instead of only
having the two kento marks there, an entire "L" shape is cut recessed into the
inner part of the "L".
If this is still unclear to folks, I will take a photo of mine and post it.
The concept is clear from the animation Dave sent. I have found it very
helpful in cases where you want to use the entire block instead of losing part
of the block to the kento, and you can also be free to change your mind about
which side of the block you want to register from. I have sometimes realized
after cutting the blocks that it would be easier to print from a different
side than originally visualized.
I do not attach the L to the block. I put the L and the block on top one of
those rubber mesh mats generally used for shelving in order to keep them
from slipping, and I find this is sufficient. April Vollmer gave me the rubbery
shelving stuff tip many years ago.
best wishes
Sarah
words just don't "cut it". :)
Anyway, the only difference with my floating kento is that instead of only
having the two kento marks there, an entire "L" shape is cut recessed into the
inner part of the "L".
If this is still unclear to folks, I will take a photo of mine and post it.
The concept is clear from the animation Dave sent. I have found it very
helpful in cases where you want to use the entire block instead of losing part
of the block to the kento, and you can also be free to change your mind about
which side of the block you want to register from. I have sometimes realized
after cutting the blocks that it would be easier to print from a different
side than originally visualized.
I do not attach the L to the block. I put the L and the block on top one of
those rubber mesh mats generally used for shelving in order to keep them
from slipping, and I find this is sufficient. April Vollmer gave me the rubbery
shelving stuff tip many years ago.
best wishes
Sarah
Message 3
From: "Maria Diener \(aka Arango\)"
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:21:37 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37332] Exchanges Update!
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Aha!!!
You all thought I was dead and gone, BIG MISTAKE!!!
I have been completing a two-week residency in the midst of nothing. The
weather is beautiful, the silence is unbelievable, the peace is amazing.
But alas! we got internet connected a couple of days ago so now I get to
also keep in touch. Sort of changes things but it is the way of the world.
SO!
Exchange #38 is coming to a close. Your deadline is looming, oh so ever near
like the desert winter sweeping dust up a rocky hill and whispering to
youuu...GET THE PRINTS DONE NOW!!! (It's a strong desert wind gust,
yikes...).
Only 9 days to get them out. Benny Alba, your patient coordinator, awaits.
Exchange #39...the controversy continues with the hanging-kento vs. the cut
kento, I think being US football season we should have a friendly football
game. Everyone wears their favorite kento, the cut kento folks have to wear
the kento on their shirts and thus must be tackled to be considered down.
The floating kento team can wear their kento on their flag and thus they
only need to be "flagged" to be down.
So, hut one, hut two, hut three...HIKE!!!
(Next week I will introduce a soccer, aka futbol, reference for the rest of
the world).
OK SERIOUSLY! Exchange #39, the Moku-Hanga Exchange: Sign up will close
forever more at the end of October. If you still want on the waiting list,
please sign up now. The list looks very solid, however, so I'm suspecting
there will not be many drop outs this time.
Oh, oh, nice move, here comes someone zig-zagging with a cut kento...I'm off
to tackle them!
Maria, always your faithful exchange manager no matter where she is
http://www.goldwellmuseum.org (where she is today)
Also, Google Earth: Rhyolite, Nevada USA to see the ghost town over my
shoulder. Now that I have "net" I will start posting pics.
You all thought I was dead and gone, BIG MISTAKE!!!
I have been completing a two-week residency in the midst of nothing. The
weather is beautiful, the silence is unbelievable, the peace is amazing.
But alas! we got internet connected a couple of days ago so now I get to
also keep in touch. Sort of changes things but it is the way of the world.
SO!
Exchange #38 is coming to a close. Your deadline is looming, oh so ever near
like the desert winter sweeping dust up a rocky hill and whispering to
youuu...GET THE PRINTS DONE NOW!!! (It's a strong desert wind gust,
yikes...).
Only 9 days to get them out. Benny Alba, your patient coordinator, awaits.
Exchange #39...the controversy continues with the hanging-kento vs. the cut
kento, I think being US football season we should have a friendly football
game. Everyone wears their favorite kento, the cut kento folks have to wear
the kento on their shirts and thus must be tackled to be considered down.
The floating kento team can wear their kento on their flag and thus they
only need to be "flagged" to be down.
So, hut one, hut two, hut three...HIKE!!!
(Next week I will introduce a soccer, aka futbol, reference for the rest of
the world).
OK SERIOUSLY! Exchange #39, the Moku-Hanga Exchange: Sign up will close
forever more at the end of October. If you still want on the waiting list,
please sign up now. The list looks very solid, however, so I'm suspecting
there will not be many drop outs this time.
Oh, oh, nice move, here comes someone zig-zagging with a cut kento...I'm off
to tackle them!
Maria, always your faithful exchange manager no matter where she is
http://www.goldwellmuseum.org (where she is today)
Also, Google Earth: Rhyolite, Nevada USA to see the ghost town over my
shoulder. Now that I have "net" I will start posting pics.
Message 4
From: Raymond Hudson
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:52:21 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37333] the floating kento
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Barbara & Dave,
Thanks for the explanations and the link to Matsumura-san with the
animation. I think these would be terrific for the classes I teach
because I'm always trying to squeeze enough wood, pigment, paper, etc.
into the maximum $25 supply fee that the craft center allows.
I did use something similar eons ago when I printed with inks and a
press. It worked great for reduction prints.
And Graham,
I like the idea of gluing a strip onto the block for kentos. But this,
I think, works best with sold blocks and not the plywood I
occasionally use (and which my students always use).
Ray
Thanks for the explanations and the link to Matsumura-san with the
animation. I think these would be terrific for the classes I teach
because I'm always trying to squeeze enough wood, pigment, paper, etc.
into the maximum $25 supply fee that the craft center allows.
I did use something similar eons ago when I printed with inks and a
press. It worked great for reduction prints.
And Graham,
I like the idea of gluing a strip onto the block for kentos. But this,
I think, works best with sold blocks and not the plywood I
occasionally use (and which my students always use).
Ray
Message 5
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:05:43 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37334] Re: floating kento
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I've used the "L" system for years, mostly with Western oily woodblock
where we are prone to use every last inch of the block for the image.
It is an ok system, but can't hold a candle to the kento in the block
system, IMHO. The reason I say this is because gremlins can sneak in
and cause either the block or the L to move. I tape the L to the top
of my work surface to keep it in place, and still, it is possible to
not get the block exactly all the way snug into the corner, or those
pesky gremlins can move it just before the paper goes down and then
your registration is off just the tiniest bit. Years ago I made a
system using wood scraps. I'll see if I can find it and post it on my
blog. Meanwhile, watch for those studio gremlins. They are next to
impossible to catch & even when you do, they can wriggle loose and
there you are again.
Cheers ~
Sharri
where we are prone to use every last inch of the block for the image.
It is an ok system, but can't hold a candle to the kento in the block
system, IMHO. The reason I say this is because gremlins can sneak in
and cause either the block or the L to move. I tape the L to the top
of my work surface to keep it in place, and still, it is possible to
not get the block exactly all the way snug into the corner, or those
pesky gremlins can move it just before the paper goes down and then
your registration is off just the tiniest bit. Years ago I made a
system using wood scraps. I'll see if I can find it and post it on my
blog. Meanwhile, watch for those studio gremlins. They are next to
impossible to catch & even when you do, they can wriggle loose and
there you are again.
Cheers ~
Sharri
Message 6
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:45:27 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37335] Re: the floating kento
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Raymond Hudson wrote:
> And Graham,
> I like the idea of gluing a strip onto the block for kentos. But
> this, I think, works best with sold blocks and not the plywood I
> occasionally use (and which my students always use).
Hi Ray,
You're right, as the plywood is far too thin to enable the biscuit-ing or
ribbing that makes the joining secure. I used to get from Japan some ½
inch shina that would allow this.... Alas they don’t make it anymore.
Hi Sherri....
You are so right about those Gremlins.... Also not to forget the
happening of nudging or knocking the floater and not realizing you
have done so.... lay down a sheet of the expensive hosho and .... well
you know the rest. No thanks... I have feeling I am a broken
record, broken record, broken record, broken record, broken record,
broken record, broken record, broken record,
Cheers,
Graham
Message 7
From: cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:51:25 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37336] off-topic, Pet Art Auction in LA area
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Hi folks, this is particularly for those of you in the Los Angeles area, but you can view the website if you want to find out more information and/or view the artwork.
This Sunday afternoon one of my dog prints will be included in "Pet Art 10", an auction which benefits PAWSLA, a wonderful organization in the Los Angeles area which assists low-income and/or terminally ill people in being able to keep and take care of their companion animals.? It is a very good cause.
You can read more about the organization at
http://pawsla.org
and if you are not in the area, you can still place a bid by downloading a bidder form
http://pawsla.org/content.asp?CustComKey=289686&CategoryKey=289993&pn=Page&DomName=pawsla.org
and following is the webpage where you can view the artwork
http://pawsla.org/content.asp?CustComKey=289686&CategoryKey=290076&RecPos=1&PagePos=1&pn=Gallery2&domname=pawsla.org
take care, Sarah Hauser
Sunday, October 26, 2008
Avalon Hollywood
1735 N. Vine, Hollywood
Doors open at 4:30 p.m./live auction begins at 6:00 p.m.
Please visit our website www.pawsla.org for more information.
Message 8
From: Blog Manager
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:54:39 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37337] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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