Today's postings
- [Baren 38235] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V46 #4723 (Feb 25, 2009) (Marilynn Smith)
- [Baren 38236] Re: Baren blog and Kawase Hasui 1950's video (Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com)
- [Baren 38237] Exchange 40 ("rsimola # netzero.net")
- [Baren 38238] Hiroshiga (Jennifer Martindale)
- [Baren 38239] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
Message 1
From: Marilynn Smith
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:16:00 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38235] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V46 #4723 (Feb 25, 2009)
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This has been an interesting and diverse thread of comments. Some how
the train of thought has lingered in the back of my mind, along with
designing my ox card, HA! It occurred to me that when I told my
friend to look at the colors and feel what she felt in order to enjoy
my abstract art that diversely is not art about feeling??? I like
Mikes' comment, " But art, passion, spiritualism, invention - these
seem to have something in common!" People immediately react to what
they identify with, meaning a picture of something they consider
real. It is harder for them to know and understand that art is not
just a picture of something, it is an interpretation, an invention and
often filled with passion. I left a woodblock print with a friend who
is trying to start up an arts/craft shop in our northern tourist
area. I labeled it bayside impression. She said, "impression"?? I
said, hey this is not exactly what I saw it is what happened as I
created it and it is very much like the bay, but far from exactly what
it looks like. Therefor, it is an impression from the artists mind
and soul.
Are there too many artists??? NEVER!!! I do think people lump art
and craft together and often what or who is an artist is a hard thing
to define. Like the woman here in our complex who told me her friend
was a fabulous artist. She takes pictures of art work her friends
admire off the internet and copies them and sells them. (Yes I told
her she is committing plagiarism, to which this woman replied it is
only $500.) This is a very outspoken, opinionated person so there was
no point in trying to explain. But I got my point across later in the
season when I took one of my prints down to show my girl friend She
asked me where I got the image from. I told her, there is a daisy in
a pot on my balcony, I drew it and than I made a print from that. She
said, " oh, I didn't know".
This is not to say that those who can reproduce wonderful works are
not extremely talented. In its own way they too are artists and very
skilled because they too have to see and feel. Where does one draw
the line??? And should not everyone be allowed the feeling that they
too have created something??? Even my husband will tell people art is
my "hobby". I say no it is who I am. So many have artistic sidelines
as hobbies that it is hard to say that one might be able to make a
living at a "hobby".
I agree, the measure of "success" in our society is based on monetary
gain. For me the process of creating and ending up with something I
think works as a piece of art is success.
I applaud those amongst us who have stepped out into the world as
artists, running a business and making a living. Keep at it and keep
educating.
Marilynn
the train of thought has lingered in the back of my mind, along with
designing my ox card, HA! It occurred to me that when I told my
friend to look at the colors and feel what she felt in order to enjoy
my abstract art that diversely is not art about feeling??? I like
Mikes' comment, " But art, passion, spiritualism, invention - these
seem to have something in common!" People immediately react to what
they identify with, meaning a picture of something they consider
real. It is harder for them to know and understand that art is not
just a picture of something, it is an interpretation, an invention and
often filled with passion. I left a woodblock print with a friend who
is trying to start up an arts/craft shop in our northern tourist
area. I labeled it bayside impression. She said, "impression"?? I
said, hey this is not exactly what I saw it is what happened as I
created it and it is very much like the bay, but far from exactly what
it looks like. Therefor, it is an impression from the artists mind
and soul.
Are there too many artists??? NEVER!!! I do think people lump art
and craft together and often what or who is an artist is a hard thing
to define. Like the woman here in our complex who told me her friend
was a fabulous artist. She takes pictures of art work her friends
admire off the internet and copies them and sells them. (Yes I told
her she is committing plagiarism, to which this woman replied it is
only $500.) This is a very outspoken, opinionated person so there was
no point in trying to explain. But I got my point across later in the
season when I took one of my prints down to show my girl friend She
asked me where I got the image from. I told her, there is a daisy in
a pot on my balcony, I drew it and than I made a print from that. She
said, " oh, I didn't know".
This is not to say that those who can reproduce wonderful works are
not extremely talented. In its own way they too are artists and very
skilled because they too have to see and feel. Where does one draw
the line??? And should not everyone be allowed the feeling that they
too have created something??? Even my husband will tell people art is
my "hobby". I say no it is who I am. So many have artistic sidelines
as hobbies that it is hard to say that one might be able to make a
living at a "hobby".
I agree, the measure of "success" in our society is based on monetary
gain. For me the process of creating and ending up with something I
think works as a piece of art is success.
I applaud those amongst us who have stepped out into the world as
artists, running a business and making a living. Keep at it and keep
educating.
Marilynn
Message 2
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:56:55 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38236] Re: Baren blog and Kawase Hasui 1950's video
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Thanks Dave for posting additional info on the Hasui video, the book with
DVD is quite expensive but like you say perhaps some generous benefactor
will soon
post the complete video to YouTube.
Last night I added to the Baren blog a video documentary on Hiroshige's
famous series "53 Stations on the Tokaido". First published in the 1830's
it is perhaps the artist's best known and most reprinted work. I thought
this particular video gave quite an inside on Hiroshige's prints plus in
the third part of the documentary we get to see a bit of the effort put
forth in 2001 to reprint the complete series from blocks carved back in
the 1950's. Total running time is about 20 minutes and I added a link to a
comprehensive Hiroshige website with images from most of his series and
print genre.
http://barenforum.org/blog/
thanks....Julio
DVD is quite expensive but like you say perhaps some generous benefactor
will soon
post the complete video to YouTube.
Last night I added to the Baren blog a video documentary on Hiroshige's
famous series "53 Stations on the Tokaido". First published in the 1830's
it is perhaps the artist's best known and most reprinted work. I thought
this particular video gave quite an inside on Hiroshige's prints plus in
the third part of the documentary we get to see a bit of the effort put
forth in 2001 to reprint the complete series from blocks carved back in
the 1950's. Total running time is about 20 minutes and I added a link to a
comprehensive Hiroshige website with images from most of his series and
print genre.
http://barenforum.org/blog/
thanks....Julio
Message 3
From: "rsimola # netzero.net"
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:58:24 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38237] Exchange 40
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On the central coast of California there has actually, finally been some rain! The blossoms are starting to push on some of the trees, and it is beginning to look like spring is going to arrive sometime soon. In fact, Spring in my part of California is usually about over when May Day arrives and I will have everyone's prints collated and ready to mail back to you. I have just received an email from Marilynn that her set of prints are finished and are ready to be mailed. Thanks Marilynn.
So how are the rest of you doing? Are you in the design stage? carving? printing? are they also in the mail?
Optimistically,
Robert Simola, Ph.D.
Craftsman, gardener, grape grower, Chaucer collector,
. . . and retired teacher
So how are the rest of you doing? Are you in the design stage? carving? printing? are they also in the mail?
Optimistically,
Robert Simola, Ph.D.
Craftsman, gardener, grape grower, Chaucer collector,
. . . and retired teacher
Message 4
From: Jennifer Martindale
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:33:42 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38238] Hiroshiga
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Julio, thank you so much for the links to the videos of Hiroshiga. I look forward to your links as always being of interest, but this time you have excelled yourself. I can only imagine how much time you devote to the forum, but I for one am most grateful for your treasure seeking and sharing.
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Subject: Master's Update 2/25/09
Posted by: Phare-Camp
 This is a proof of the spot color plate for the Empress. It's very transparent but still too yellow; it obscures with the chair and the ottoman.  You can see above how the the purer yellow competes with the chair and ottoman. On the left we are closer but the addition of opaque white to the yellow ink has made it too opaque and since not enough of the white of the paper shows through it's still too yellow. |
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