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Message 1
From: Le Green
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:34:35 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40694] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V50 #5151 (Feb 27, 2010)
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I vote yes to the print alliance membership for Baren.

Le Green-Schubert

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Message 2
From: l k
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:50:00 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40695] Re: American Print Alliance
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Yes.
I remember everything you've told me about APA
I read over their entire site...
and now, just reading Sharri's words..
I have to sign on to this.
I'm back at printing again...
and I'll be joining whether the Baren joins as a whole or not.
lindakelen-artings.blogspot

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Message 3
From: Conor Moe
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:22:55 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40696] Re: American Print Alliance
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I'm also voting yes for the print alliance. I knew very little to nothing
about it until it came up here on baren, but it sounds like they have some
amazing things to offer. And then I saw the thing that really got me
interested ; somewhere it was said that they were continuing a 50% student
discount? Does anybody here have information on what that pertains to, as in
membership only, or in products they sell? My eyes lit up and I started
daydreaming, associating that discount with their residency classes. I'm
assuming that's just a pipe dream but if anybody knows what they meant
(guessing 50% on membership?) that would be helpful for me. I've been
completely isolated from modern printmakers, unless you're counting peers,
but I mean established artists experimenting in new ways with printmaking,
so for me those two a year magazine things would make it well worth it.

Conor

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Message 4
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:27:31 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40697] Re: American Print Alliance
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Yes to continuing our membership in American Print Alliance!



Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO
http://mlyon.com

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Message 5
From: Amanda Miller
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:12:32 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40698] Re: American Print Alliance
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I vote yes for the Print Alliance. After hearing the good comments about
the journal, I will plan on subscribing, too.
Amanda


--
Amanda Gordon Miller
www.AmandaGordonMiller.com
EdamamePress.etsy.com

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Message 6
From: Linda Beeman
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:28:58 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40699] baren recovered!
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We did it! I must say that Maria's narrative sounds exactly like ours - yoga poses and all - so I'll refer you to her posts : #5101, 5102. They are pretty funny!
I couldn't find the most recommended black river stone to break down the fibers so I used a polished Michigan Petoskey stone. Worked great.

The one difference was that once we got it done and stood back to catch our breath I noticed something funny looking........the shin (coils) were facing up. Oh the language that came out of our mouths!
Quick, quick, cut the string, unwrap one side, flip the shin, re-wrap, twist, twist, retie the string, pass out on the floor.
Now we'll see if it dries tight or not.

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Message 7
From: eli griggs
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:42:01 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40700] Re: American Print Alliance
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Add my vote to the yes 'column please.

Eli

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Message 8
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:49:11 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40701] Re: American Print Alliance
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Yes to continuing our membership in
American Print Alliance


           Madis Arts

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Message 9
From: Raymond Hudson
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:55:40 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40702] Baren: American Print Alliance
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YES from me!

Ray Hudson

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Message 10
From: Conor Moe
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:03:36 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40703] Re: Inks for Reduction Print
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>Ah, yes, I forgot to mention the drying between layers. Learned that after a
>few dozen head-scratching moments. I used to try to do 6 colors in one day.
>Ha! Not only was the fresh ink not adhering, the old ink was getting pulled
>off. Oh, how fun those days were! Printing has helped me learn to be
>patient. And to grit my teeth. And to not let the tears fall into the
>oil-based ink.

It's funny that you should mention that, because I just got back from my
school's studio where I spent 18 hours straight printing (Ha! ......) 6
colors. Reductively. Its not actually reductive, but I am using the key for
two color blocks and using them reductively, and Im trying to go as far as a
can into the layering type stuff you can get out of reductive prints, so I'm
still having the same problems that come with the territory I guess. I
wasn't actually printing six colors on top of themselves, but six different
color areas intended to both combine colors using tint base extender and
also have some flats that lay on top of colors but are opaque. I'm
forgetting who posted this in response to the whole reductive thing but I
had no idea process inks were intended for different purposes. I have been
mixing graphic chemical relief oil inks, plus graphic chem (I think) process
oil inks, I never made that connection. When I got introduced my teacher
just said use either one.I've been using a little litho inks as well. I
asked about all this a month or so ago and got a lot of great responses,
especially from Barbara who took the time to explain a lot of stuff to me. I
have been keeping the viscosity and feel of the inks even, all with small
amounts of setswell, but I've been using cobalt drier too, and I think its
giving me some problems. It seems like once you mix it with your ink you
only have half an hour before it gets so extremely tacky that its hard to
even roll. And Ive been doing it stupidly where I am rolling 4-6 seperate
small areas at a time that have to be taped up etc to keep the ink where it
needs to be. So that and it being an edition of 22 makes working with cobalt
drier hard. I have been doing less for each color, but I think I probably
started out with 10-15% drier and those were large flats of color.I have a
good feeling I'm using way too much drier though. The one positive about
this is experimenting with inks that are so tacky that its almost like
rolling big pieces of sand ink (if there were such a thing) onto the wood.
Like you're rolling out bumpy pixes that do have space between them. I
havent liked most of the results of that problem today, but there were a ton
of other factors affecting how it prints. I have gotten a couple of
interesting textures using a heavy amount of cobalt drier to get the
tackiness, and then considerably lowering the press pressure. I also had to
quit today because only some were dry enough. I'm glad barbara brought the
newsprint to take off excess ink tip up because I should be doing that. But
you are right, all thaf work and nothing very good to show does teach you
something. So far for though me it hasnt been patience.

Conor

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Message 11
From: jennifer kelly
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:36:48 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40704] Re: selling prints in the US
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Thanks so much for that (Etsy info)
Jenny

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Message 12
From: Margot Rocklen
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:58:05 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40705] Print Alliance
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I am also in favor of sending in the $100 for group membership.
Margot Rocklen

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