Today's postings

  1. [Baren 41896] Re: We Are Pilgrims: the Book! (Tyrus Clutter)
  2. [Baren 41897] Re: We Are Pilgrims: the Book! (Elizabeth Atwood)
  3. [Baren 41898] Re: We Are Pilgrims: the Book! (Marilynn Smith)
  4. [Baren 41899] Re: press wheel question (Shireen Holman)
  5. [Baren 41900] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
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Message 1
From: Tyrus Clutter
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:19:33 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41896] Re: We Are Pilgrims: the Book!
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A method I have used to print text for artist's books is the polyester plate
lithography. You can produce the text to the size you want, with the font
you want, and then print it out in reverse on the plates. You literally send
the plate through a laser printer, but you can use a copier, too. If you use
InDesign it is simple to use crop marks to register the paper. The only
drawback for some on Baren is that it uses oil based ink. But these plates
were really made for a commercial litho process and if you ruin a plate you
can just print up another.

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Message 2
From: Elizabeth Atwood
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:11:43 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41897] Re: We Are Pilgrims: the Book!
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Congratulations, Annie............a job well done. The Pilgrim series
is impressive to begin with and now in book form.....wonderful! I
think some of the charm is in the fact that, with varying sizes, it
has a spontaneity. Good idea having it available at your galleries.

My experience with book making has only been with the small handmade
accordian style. One with a collection of wildflowers rendered in
colored pencil (about 2x2)....... and a slightly larger one of a
Browning poem illustrated with linocuts. They were fun to do.........
completed on my computer with an inkjet printer. I harbor no great
ambitions with books, just bringing together two loves, books and
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Message 3
From: Marilynn Smith
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:19:32 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41898] Re: We Are Pilgrims: the Book!
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Annie, thanks for the input. I think I will do the fine art book as
that was my original intent and I have a stack of small plates thanks
to McClains. They graciously gifted me with a stack of basswood
plates, all the same size, when I placed an order. I prefer harder
wood but I think for this project it will be perfect. They should
carve up fast and will keep me from getting too detailed, a good
thing when you have a large group to complete. I do not have a letter
press, yes I do have an etching press. I have never done etching, have
done dry point. Not my thing. Also I think there will be a lot of
text. In fact thinking on text, perhaps I should use the poet in me,
at least I am thinking. I wonder if I could have the text printed
commercially and pages left blank and mount prints next to the text.
The important element there would be to have it done acid free. That
way it would be commercially bound. I will have plenty of time to
think on it this winter while working on the carvings. Yes I think it
is a daunting project, but I am both a free lance writer and an artist
so it feels right for me. Actually I like the idea of everything
being done by me, down to binding the book. That way it would seem
like a true artists book. However I am not sure computer printed text
will hold up as well as commercially printed or as you say letter
press text. As far as pricing, I doubt I will get a high price no
matter what I do, but it is the project the intrigues me.

My tigers are drying, yeah! Look for them in October after we have
wandered around Europe, not sure exactly where we are going. The
husband wants to go south and I want to go to Bornholm Denmark where
my grandmother was born. Looks like we will cover a lot of ground!

Cut print and be happy,

Marilynn in now sunny Nahcotta where oysters grow and cranberries have
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Message 4
From: Shireen Holman
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:30:05 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41899] Re: press wheel question
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Whelan's earlier version of the press had a smaller wheel. I find the
bigger one easier to use (gear ratio or something, like bicycles?) but
they might still have some of the smaller ones around and give you an


Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist

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Subject: The Sizing Saga continues ...
Posted by: Dave Bull

I sent out the summer issue of my newsletter a few days ago, and one of the stories inside gave an overview of the recent experiments in paper sizing. In the story I mentioned how I had had trouble obtaining a brush to do this job - none of the brush makers still in business were willing to make a full-size brush for me, as this is pretty much a defunct business.

But look at the email that showed up yesterday - from Richard Steiner in Kyoto!

But the reason I am writing now is that you said you could not find a wide enuf brush, so you have to cut your sheets in half. Many years ago, I visited a paper-making village in northern Shikoku (forget the name now, but they are good and inexpensive; many families doing the paper making, a similar arrangement as we find in Etchizen). We stayed overnight, so got to know nearly everyone there. In this town there was a sizing kobo, a large scale operation. On the day we were there, they has just received delivery a couple days earlier of a sizing machine which they had designed and had make somewhere. They were testing it out. A long machine, nearly fully automatic. Very cleaver design, with sprayers located above and below the moving sheets of washi. One man loads the hamper at one end, and another man (could be the same man) removes the sized paper at the other end.

Anyway, in . . .
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