Today's postings

  1. [Baren 45589] glueing paper onto MDF panels ( (Lee Churchill)
  2. [Baren 45590] Re: glueing paper onto MDF panels ( (Barbara Mason)
  3. [Baren 45591] Re: glueing paper onto MDF panels ( (Curtis Wright)
  4. [Baren 45592] Southern Winter Northern Summer Solstice Exchange for 2012 (Charles Morgan)
  5. [Baren 45593] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
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Message 1
From: Lee Churchill
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:34:30 GMT
Subject: [Baren 45589] glueing paper onto MDF panels (
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A couple more thoughts on this:
1) MDF should be _sealed_ using at least two coats of some sort of varnish urethane or varathane at least, but you will want to double check which is most appropriate with someone who has a bit more information at hand than I do. Acrylic gel is permeable to acidic gasses and actually not much protection at all.
2) Gesso will only absorb acid if it is some sort of carbonate base, a chalk white rather than titanium dioxide. And from a couple of cases Ive seen gesso on masonite (similar to MDF) can turn yellow in thin areas within a few years but that may have been due to the specific application method/situation.
3) I agree that YES paste isnt the best option, oddly enough in conservation testing Weldbond (a PVA available at hardware stores in Canada, not sure if its in the states/international) performed amazingly well, as good as most conservation adhesives. The Canadian Conservation Institute did the testing, I can look up the reference if anyone is interested, or they may have it online somewhere.
Hope thats of help,
Lee Oldford Churchill
Ladybug Paper Studio
6, 2132-35 Ave SW
Calgary, AB
T2T 2E3

>Yes paste is not archival but then again neither is MDF. I would think your best bet would be to use
> acrylic gesso on the surface and then use something along the lines of Golden Absorbent Ground. This will
> hopefully keep the acid in the MDF at bay. Then I would glue the paper to the surface using Golden Soft gel.
> You could bypass the first two steps by using Clayboard but it sounds as if MDF is required.

>--Curtis Wright
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Message 2
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:45:25 GMT
Subject: [Baren 45590] Re: glueing paper onto MDF panels (
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This is the review on yes paste and it is deemed archival...I have used it with no problems and the paper has been stuck down to a gessoed surface for about 10 I am unsure why it has a bad rap. I have used it with white boards with no barrier in between and it seems fine after several years..I did thin it half and half with is pretty thick.
My best to all

Non-toxicOrganicNeutral pHAcid-freeYes! Paste is a white (clear when dry), non-toxic, slow to set water-based/Dextrin-based paste that is used for long lasting archival mounting on almost all artist papers. This acid-free, neutral pH paste will not react with air against paper. It is completely organic and can be thinned with warm water. It is ideal for conservation of art and will not stain delicate watercolors. Use also with tin, cloth, leather, metal and primed surfaces. Yes! Paste is also excellent for decoupage and collage work.
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Message 3
From: Curtis Wright
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:27:57 GMT
Subject: [Baren 45591] Re: glueing paper onto MDF panels (
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While something must be Neutral ph and Acid Free to be archival, something must not be archival if it is Neutral ph and Acid Free.
Nowhere in the review (which I'm sure comes via the manufacturers of Yes!) is the word archival used. Yes! paste has its uses--it is
great to use for collage with kids. I would never, ever, ever use it for chine colle. If you don't want to take my word for it
ask the staff at Crown Point Press or better yet read their Magical Secrets of chine Colle, book. The debate about Yes! paste being
archival often comes up at the SGC conferences. Usually it ends with an artist stating they have never had a problem with it--and they
probably won't, during their lifetime. But that doesn't make it archival.
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Message 4
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 03:41:05 GMT
Subject: [Baren 45592] Southern Winter Northern Summer Solstice Exchange for 2012
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This is NOT an official Baren exchange, although over the years quite a few Bareners have participated. I host two exchanges a year, geared to the two yearly solstices. The next exchange is the Southern Winter Northern Summer solstice exchange for 2012. The sign-up deadline is June21, the solstice. Details are given below. Please note that you have only one week to sign-up.

Cheers ....... Charles

SWNS12 ... The Sounthern Winter Northern Summer Solstice Print Exchange for 2012

TECHNIQUE: Any editionable technique you like ... etching, screen prints, wood block, etc.
PAPER SIZE: 5.5 x 7.5 inches = 14 x 19 cm
IMAGE SIZE: anything that fits on the paper
REQUIRED NUMBER OF PRINTS: to be determined by the number that sign up ... limited to 50 maximum
PARTICIPATION FEE: $20 in Australian, Canadian, or US funds ... payment methods forthcoming at a later date
DUE DATE: Prints are due in the hands of the coordinator by September 1, 2012. This date is FIRM. Prints received after that date will not be included in the exchange.
COORDINATOR: Tina Moore will coordinate this exchange. Participants will be contacted with her Australian mailing address at a later date.
SIGN-UP: To sign up, send private email to by June 21, 2012.

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